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Mar 25 2015 06:48am
Quote (iAmRobbi @ Mar 25 2015 07:36am)
Yes but i get the point of trading him to get cap soace to resign Jake wich umberger contract gives us

I would say with a better PK we're in


What cap space did we save from that trade? 500k?

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Quote (CooLSmuRFeR24 @ Mar 25 2015 07:48am)
What cap space did we save from that trade? 500k?



1 year off a 5mil contract, the year voracek new (high $$) contract will kick in

Sniders comments scare me for the future of this team

Kinda said he doesnt care about the youngsters ans we shouldnt just wait for them to develop and should go after Ufa and trading young assets again

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Mar 25 2015 08:06am
Quote (iAmRobbi @ Mar 25 2015 09:47am)
1 year off a 5mil contract, the year voracek new (high $$) contract will kick in

Sniders comments scare me for the future of this team

Kinda said he doesnt care about the youngsters ans we shouldnt just wait for them to develop and should go after Ufa and trading young assets again


that trade did nothing for me
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Mar 25 2015 03:20pm
what we save isnt worth losing hartsy for umburger even a struggling hartsy was better then umburgers best lol
we coulda moved D other contracts expire we coulda gave jake the $$ without this trade
Quote (iAmRobbi @ Mar 25 2015 08:47am)
1 year off a 5mil contract, the year voracek new (high $$) contract will kick in

Sniders comments scare me for the future of this team

Kinda said he doesnt care about the youngsters ans we shouldnt just wait for them to develop and should go after Ufa and trading young assets again


when/where did he say that? o.O
and maybe he means like brayden schenn and laughton ... it only makes sense to move somebody we have a bazillion centers and need wingers and D theres gotta be decent trades out there
but what scares me is if he was to pul lanother hartsy for umburger trade with a young guy... well fuck
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Mar 25 2015 03:32pm
I never said I was ok with the trade. Just pointed out the only reason i could see the deal happen

That and Umberger discipline

I think I missunderstood Smider comments, i read some comments about them but not the whole interview
Now that I've watched it I'm 90% fine with what he said

His message was that even with the plan of drafting and growing talent, it doesnt mean we should accept not getting into the playoffs because he feels we have a strong core (i do too: giroux, voracek, simmonds, couts, mason) and only a few moves (coaching changes, FA, trades) from being right into it and that there should be nothing wrong to do it

For me I feel we are currently a playoff wildcard team and with a better team system and better PK we would be in this year. Once we're in alot can happen, I wouldnt be impressed of a matchup vs caps or pens either. Not saying we got a contender group but we can still enjoy playoffs as a fan instead of accepting bad seasons line this because of a "plan"

The way I see it is we're not that far from a great situation where (like the blues) we could have a solid NHL team filled with great young players and then having a great prospect pool too

Having great prospect depth and taling time to develop shouldnt mean just letting your current NHL team get destroyed (like BUF, EDM, TOR, etc)
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Mar 25 2015 03:58pm
Quote (iAmRobbi @ Mar 25 2015 04:32pm)
I never said I was ok with the trade. Just pointed out the only reason i could see the deal happen

That and Umberger discipline

I think I missunderstood Smider comments, i read some comments about them but not the whole interview
Now that I've watched it I'm 90% fine with what he said

His message was that even with the plan of drafting and growing talent, it doesnt mean we should accept not getting into the playoffs because he feels we have a strong core (i do too: giroux, voracek, simmonds, couts, mason) and only a few moves (coaching changes, FA, trades) from being right into it and that there should be nothing wrong to do it

For me I feel we are currently a playoff wildcard team and with a better team system and better PK we would be in this year. Once we're in alot can happen, I wouldnt be impressed of a matchup vs caps or pens either. Not saying we got a contender group but we can still enjoy playoffs as a fan instead of accepting bad seasons line this because of a "plan"

The way I see it is we're not that far from a great situation where (like the blues) we could have a solid NHL team filled with great young players and then having a great prospect pool too

Having great prospect depth and taling time to develop shouldnt mean just letting your current NHL team get destroyed (like BUF, EDM, TOR, etc)


i figure 2-3 years tops before flyers are a steady playoff team again
we have 4 promising looking d prospects developing and prob add more this draft which sets up the back end for a while hopefully we can develop atleast 1 elite top 2 guy sorta deal
we already have a solid mid aged core forward group and not much depth in the pool but the guys we do have seem to be moving in the right direction and might turn into good bottom 6 guys or something + we prob add more this draft
goaltending..masons good but if he gets hurt a lot like this season were going to need a better back up that we can rely on a bit more while stolarz develops in the ahl for the next few years

and next season gudas should be healthy he sound like a half decent d man to have for pretty cheap which were going to need with coburn and timo gone
next season is looking like streit gudas delzotto schultz grossman macdonald schenn ... still gotta move some guys and make space for morin possibly ghost or just tough it out and develop them a year in the ahl

This post was edited by dragoneth on Mar 25 2015 04:05pm
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Mar 25 2015 08:09pm
If they can't trade grossman or schenn I wonder if they would move streit and what we could get for him
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Mar 25 2015 08:34pm
Quote (CooLSmuRFeR24 @ Mar 25 2015 09:09pm)
If they can't trade grossman or schenn I wonder if they would move streit and what we could get for him


i think grossman can be moved fairly easy
id like to keep streit defensively hes one of our better guys that we can use in the top 4 and hes got the offensive side

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Mar 25 2015 08:42pm
Dammit if I didn't get hit right in the Kimmo feels tonight
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Mar 25 2015 10:26pm
Quote (jro1221 @ Mar 25 2015 09:42pm)
Dammit if I didn't get hit right in the Kimmo feels tonight


lol yeah
macdonald and simmonds out for rest of the season macd right hand injury simmonds looked like a broken foot
should help the tank but damn i wanted simmer to hit 30 goals :(

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