Marner is a PPG player without JT lol

then why was he a 60 pt player before jt got there?
im sure JT being on of the best goal scoring centers and 47 goals had nothing to do with marner being a playmaker having a breakout season


i mean shit lets just give up 4 first rounders because every team has 30+ goal scoring centers for marner to play with right?
oh apparently not as there is only 22 in the nhl last season and there is a lot more then 22 teams

That's cuz ur comparing the 20 to 30 picks with all 31 team picks...
Pick a single team that's been competitive in the past 4 years selecting 20 to 30 range and name 4 players VS marner.. It's a whole new story, especially if a team is trying to compete now and benefits from the immediate help they get from marner.

Also Tavares equally benefitted from playing with marner because his stats indicate that he has insane play driving skills. So as long as his new team has a linemate that knows how to finish and score goals, it shouldn't change his output. Here's some indication of his play driving skills below

"Marner’s biggest asset is his playmaking which is nearly unrivalled. The only players projected to be stronger at generating assists are Nikita Kucherov, Connor McDavid and Blake Wheeler; Marner’s ability to drive a power play is a large part of his high standing here. Marner is also top 10 at driving play offensively – though that’s behind three other Leafs including both of his linemates. Defensively he’s weak, but that’s true of most of his teammates and he’s still an excellent player despite that."

he's a 10m player but 1.5mil Overpayment avv for an elite play making player ain't too shabby.

Rantanen, boeser, Laine are cheaper because they are driven by their linemates. Rantanen has insane ppg playing with macK then drops to meh when he's playing without him.

Maybe because he was a rookie coming into the league? That had nothing to do with it tho right? Konecy is only a 50 pt player because he plays with giroux and couts. what is he without?

This post was edited by Chadzle on Jul 16 2019 05:42pm

tavares put up 4 more points then he did on the islanders with anders lee? and who else i dont even know the season before
i mean sure he benefits having a winger like marner over a guy like anders lee but even with average wingers tavares has been a steady 70-80 pt guy marner had 61 and 69 pt seasons JT comes along and boom 94 points
you say those other rfas are driven by their linemates but act like marner isnt then why the fuck did he jump up 20 pts as soon as he plays with jt? they both benefit sure but that doesnt mean JT doesnt boosts the fuck our of marners play just like those other rfas
linemates
like dont get me wrong marner is a great player but if you expect another 90+ season without JT i dont think you get maybe 70-80 which is still great but if your paying him for 90+ and dont have jt type center and giving up 4 1sts..oof



konecny was actually bouncing around between the 1st and 2nd because they kept trying to get voracek going if he played the whole season with g+couts he prob puts up 60 and close to 30g


marners a small guy what if he gets run the fuck over and seriously hurt? LTIR or concussion issues you have zero first rounders to draft a replacement and you have a giant hole on your team
it happened to philly with pronger we gave up 2 or 3? 1sts or something he got hurt we had zero defense and zero picks to do anything with
even crosby had concusion issues like players get hurt its a tough league

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 16 2019 05:57pm

So what I’m seeing here is Konecny>Marner

Marner was on 4th line for like 15 games when he got 69....

Jsp now Toronto Sports Network 2.0

He was also like 20-21 years old? Players tend to develop, sure Marner obviously will benefit from having JT, but let’s not pretend like he wouldn’t be PPG without



Let’s talk about the other overhyped Canadian team (flames) for a bit if you want. Gaudreau going to cherry pick his way to get points again this years?

This post was edited by Meatstick on Jul 16 2019 06:11pm

Babcock was teaching him his defensive game, he's now a PKer as well