True



I agree they are keepers though.

The short simple answer is you have to shift some of the money spent up front to d, Nylander makes the most sense imo.

I know Dubios said he’s gonna keep his core of kids that where on elc, but once you signed Taveres anyone who could add knew that wasn’t realistic.

20th-30th picks are producing some pretty high end players now imagine 4 of those you get 1 really deep draft or a guy who slides he could easily be = to marner+3 more players

in the cap era draft picks and good drafting is everything throwing away 4 1st rounders for 1 player you better have some solid drafting with those 2nd+ picks and be reaching at minimal conf finals for the next 4 seasons


honestly though without tavares marner is probably a 70ish point player like he was before idk if a 70 pt player is worth 4 first rounders when you got other options like laine conner rantanen boesser tkachuk konecny who would all likely cost a lot less
like really hes going to sign with the leafs nobody is going to offer sheet marner all the talk was probably to try and get the leafs to panic and trade away some younger guys teams wanted for dirt cheap who the fuck would pay that for marner

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 16 2019 04:33pm

The odds of getting a PPG + player in the 20-30 slots are low. In the last 10 years the only guy close to Marners level is Pasternak taken with a 20-30 pick.

Marner is a good player with who ever he plays with. Could just as easily argue JT wouldn’t have broken 40g for for the first time in his career and nearly hit 50 without Marner.

This post was edited by remco6 on Jul 16 2019 04:53pm

99 point Johnny 104th sup

I only included 20-30 picks for a reason. In the later rounds your just swinging for the park so ofc you connect once in a while and when you do it’s gone.

This post was edited by remco6 on Jul 16 2019 05:03pm

2010
kuznetsov
2014
pastrnak
2015
boesser
konecny
aho (35th)
2016
carter hart 36th

its not a matter of 1 player being marners level you have FOUR picks where you can get players like this vs 1 marner on your teams roster thats a fuck ton of depth vs 1 guy
and imo the drafts in the past like 5 years have looked much deeper then drafts 10 years ago players are living the pro athlete lifestyle in jrs not going through jrs like yay i like hockey then getting drafted and turning pro
were drafting guys in 2nd rounds that would look like sure cut 1st rounders 10 years ago the "deep draft" is becoming a yearly thing not once every 5-10 years

Konecny and Hart.. Never change drago.

Lol , and none of the other guys are PPG players.
Lol @ kuznetsev compared to marner.
Yea I know you hit lightning in a bottle in late rounds occasionally.
The odds off replacing marner in one player with those 4 picks are low. The odds say you’d get a 20g scorer and 3rd line mucked or 2p d and 2 busts. Those are the realistic expected results based on the last 10-15 years of the entry draft.


Now if you traded those picks to a GM who likes to gamble then your onto something.

This post was edited by remco6 on Jul 16 2019 05:20pm

??
konecny is a 22 year old 25 goal 50 pt player sure hes not a 70ish pt player but hes not going to cost you 4 1st rounders and can play a top 6 role and put up points
and hart is looking like a legit #1 after being projected as a top prospect why would i not include him?

im not just putting them there because they are flyers players man lol




also when was marner ppg? when he got tavares who alone is a ppg player take away tavares and you dont have ppg marner imo

its like you guys totaly ignore the fact marner has a 61 and 69 pt season gets tavares and boom biggest season of his life and he just randomly developed into a 30 pt more player right tavares has absolutely nothing to do with that
yeah im sure tavares getting 47 goals had absolutely nothing to do with that like a scoring center like tavarse every team has a bunch of them right

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 16 2019 05:26pm