Quote (UnEvilManiac @ Jul 14 2021 10:39am)
Morey and Philly are overvaluing Simmons.
You can want x player for Simmons but it's not realistic.
Very similar to Laker fans thinking a couple years ago that Josh Hart and Kuz were enough to acquire Lillard.
Simmons simply isn't worth a player the level of Lillard or Beal. Even before his playoff struggles he wasn't worth that kind of player.
It would literally take Philly throwing 2 first picks. Thybull + Maxey for philly to even get in the conversation.
You've already said that's too much. But you're wrong.
A gm and fans are allowed to ask for whatever they want. But don't be surprised when people laugh and you get hung up on.
Simmons value isn't going to decrease or increase unless he shows he can take and make a jumper.
The only reason why Har_en was realistic is b/c Har_en wanted out. Without that Simmons for Har_en was not realistic.
I already posted a few weeks back if he actually makes the all-star game in the West. You never responded saying who he'd make it over :(
Quote (UnEvilManiac @ Jul 14 2021 01:58pm)
Lets look back at the return for superstar players who didn't come out and say they "wanted out"... Who were still under contract.
Cavs - Kevin Love - extension kicked in, in 13-14 season
Minn - #1 overall pick Anthony Bennett, #1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins, Thad Young(Young talented two way player)
Philly - 2015 first round pick from Cavs, Luc Mbah a Moute and Alexey Shved
Melo had asked out
Knicks - Melo & Billups
Denver - Mozgov, Gallo, Chandler, Felton, 2014 first rounder, 2016 rights for best pick
Minn - Anthony randolf, anthony carter
(Did he ask out?)
Clippers - George
OKC - 5 first round picks, Skai, Gallo, rights to swap best for 2 other first round picks
Please don't play revisionist history in how the unknown players careers played out. These were all young promising prospects.
Lillard is top 2 at his position. Arguable that you could call him 1a and 1a with Curry. As well as a top 10 player in his prime.
Lillard has not asked out, Lillard's 4 year extension hasn't kicked in yet.
Simmons(flawed 3x eastern conference all-star. With real questions if he makes the game the past 3 years. DEVIN BOOKER HAS YET TO MAKE IT IN THE WEST..) two young promising prospects, and two LATE first round picks.
Are not enough to pull a player like Lillard. Given the history of top 10 players being traded for who haven't asked out.
Beal? Beal it's unlikely as well.
You can't expect your 2020 honda to get you a lambo in a straight trade.
Unless you're a laker fan...... Who believes they're getting everyone for their 1989 datsun 510.
Please add any superstar to the list you wish. I just picked 3 off the top of my head.
Look at this retard typing all of this just to be THIS wrong. embarrassing.
This post was edited by SwallowEmbiigLoads on Feb 10 2022 01:23pm