Is embiid’s immune system as fragile as his body?

....ummm, what? No he's not lol

Jimmy Butler is a career 33% 3PT shooter who has averaged 3.0 attempted threes per game over the last 4 seasons, he's shooting 25% from 3PT this season for Miami (on just 2.2 attempts per game) and he shot 33.8% from 3pt last season for Philly (on just 2.7 attempts per game). He hasn't sniffed league average in 3PT shooting in like 5 years, despite being a low volume 3PT shooter.

Josh Richardson is a career 36% 3PT shooter who has attempted 5.0 threes per game over the last 4 seasons, he has shot 36% and 38% from 3pt the last two seasons. Last season he averaged 6.3 attempted threes per game. This season he's having a down shooting year (he also hasn't been healthy much this season) but he's still shooting 33% on double the amount of attempts per game as Butler.

Sooo, yeah. Not only is Josh Richardson a better outside shooter, but he does it while attempting two to three times as many threes per game, which makes it even more impressive. Richardson is a better shooter and it's not really much of a discussion lol, he has essentially shot 36% or better in 3 of his 4 NBA seasons prior to this season, on fairly high volume as well.

Jimmy has never, and will never be known for his outside shooting.

This post was edited by Sixers on Mar 15 2020 11:25am

you cherry picked 3 point shooting exclusively because it makes Richardson look better. I don't have to dig up any stats to tell you that Jimmy Butler is a better "bucket getter" aka when the game grinds down to a hault and you need an ISO bucket, Butler > Richardson and it's not even a discussion

lmao that's not what we're talking about though, we're talking strictly shooting spacing the floor etc. You're now changing it up entirely.

Yes, Jimmy is a better ISO scorer, breaking news? Yes put the ball in his hands and he's an ISO scorer, he'll drive or shoot faders or find a way to score he's a top 15 NBA player when healthy and he's really really good. But he's not a better pure SHOOTER than Josh Richardson. The entire discussion was about the Sixers losing shooters, and I said we really only lost JJ and you said Jimmy is "a shooter more so than Richardson" which is not true.

Butler spaces the floor more because he at times commands double teams. nobody is doubling Richardson or putting their #1 defender on him

Butler is a better piece than Richardson, point blank. especially on a team that lacks spacing

This post was edited by Giannis on Mar 15 2020 11:29am

Yup, not true at all. Butler needs the ball in his hands to be truly effective, we saw that plenty last season when he really wasn't impacting games at all until he had the ball put into his hands because Simmons ran the offense and ran point all season. Richardson doesn't need the ball in his hands, aka he's a better floor spacer and piece to play next to Simmons and Embiid as a role player. Jimmy isn't a shooter, never has been, never will be. Is he a better player than Richardson overall? Of course, but shooting and spacing the floor is NOT something he does better.

Also, nobody cherry picked 3pt stats. Richardson absolutely shits on Butler as a shooter from 16+ feet as well, matter of fact he kills him in every area as a shooter except for right at the rim or within 10 feet LOL. You're losing this argument, badly.

Point being, you said he's a better shooter and that couldn't be farther from the truth. Sixers didn't lose shooting in that trade, they actually gained it.

Butler:



Richardson:


This post was edited by Sixers on Mar 15 2020 11:38am

Wish they had stats on contested shots vs uncontested shots

I still think it was a mistake to not sign him... No idea wtf Brand was doing tbh.

Richardson is a great player, 3 & D kind of guy, don't get me wrong.

But JJ's able to intelligently warp the defense to try to stop him when he runs around off pin down screens, and off-ball movement like Charles Barkley running away from middle aged white woman during his time with the Dream Team.

Richardson is shooting 32.7% this season, and JJ shot 45.9%, it's literally no comparison. Other than defense, Richardson is only more valuable cause he's younger. Like I said, I think letting go of JJ, pretty much fucked up y'alls spacing. If you add someone like JJ Reddick, and added like another 3&D wing, I think you guys would've done a lot better.

This post was edited by ShampooMonK on Mar 15 2020 12:58pm

Yeah I watched the full podcast. I changed my outlook on him. He may sound like an asshole, but so what? So many players in the NBA are given 'star,' treatment or coddled for accomplishing absolutely fucking nothing.

KAT was given the best up and coming center title for years now, but he's never ever taken his team to the playoffs, and while his team has sucked; never ever elevated nor took his team to another level.

Butler may be an asshole, but so many players complain and whine about how hard he is to work with. He actually seems like he wants to win. And I agree, that Simmons debacle with taking him out, then putting him back in stupid, and shows reckless the organization is.

There is just no accountability, and when people judged Butler, they immediately gave him the middle finger. He's like Johnny Depp, and 76ers/every hater is like Amber Heard.

I'm just saying if your best player cannot fucking shoot, that should tell you that he doesn't want to win.

I don't care about whatever excuses DM is going to regurgitate. The 76ers team with Butler was way better than whatever shit show of a team you guys have now.

Harris/Horford deals were fucking ridiculous. Brand should be fired, and you should bring in a coach that can utilize player developments/win.

But that's what my initial post was, he said we lost too many shooters and I said we only lost JJ really....and they tried to argue that with me by saying Butler was a better shooter than Richardson which is crazy talk.

Josh Richardson is shooting 56.3% from 16 feet out to the 3pt line this season. Jimmy Butler? 27.5% from that same area. It's not even close, Jimmy is a better finished inside (though Richardson is solid there) but outside of 15 feet it's all Richardson with the edge by a long shot. Butler has never been known as a good outside jump shooter really.

Korkmaz is no JJ, but he has been solid in stepping up this season after not being a part of anything last season, as he's shooting 40% from 3PT territory. We also added Burks (37% 3pt this season] and Robinson III (39% 3pt this season) who we didn't have last year.

All in all, Sixers now have solid shooting it's just getting everyone healthy and getting a proper rotation with the awkward fit of Horford (ideally off the bench as backup C).