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Oct 12 2021 05:55pm
Quote (Sixers @ Oct 12 2021 08:44am)
His value will be right where it was, which is at the level of being able to use him as the centerpiece to trade for a top 15 caliber player. Just as it was a few months ago when they turned down a trade for Harden for him. Sixers could easily use him as the centerpiece in a deal for someone like Dame, if Dame became available. They would have to sweeten the pot a bit, but let's not forget someone like Lillard is 6 or 7 years older and on the wrong side of 30.

You're trying to overthink this too much. Simmons is easily a top 30 NBA player, and has been viewed in the past in the top 20. He just turned 25, and he has only been playing in the NBA for 4 years (All-Star in 3 of them). Yes, he has weaknesses (jump shooting), yes he's a mental bitch who was scared to attack in the playoffs because he suddenly became an awful FT shooter, but teams will always take that type of talent and potential because as we all know Simmons has the tools to be great and that will always draw interest from teams (especially small market ones that couldn't usually attract FA's like that).

Morey will get what he wants in a trade before he sells short on Simmons, you can believe that. Rich Paul tried to get big with Morey and look how that turned out...



Hahahaha, I nearly spit out my dinner. Too 15 player in return for Simmons right now hahahaha.

Dude was embarrassed last year and hasn’t taken a single step forward in his game since entering the league. Stop acting like he’s this blossoming young player, he’s not.



This post was edited by Xx Shin3d0wn xX on Oct 12 2021 05:56pm
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His value will be right where it was, which is at the level of being able to use him as the centerpiece to trade for a top 15 caliber player. Just as it was a few months ago when they turned down a trade for Harden for him. Sixers could easily use him as the centerpiece in a deal for someone like Dame, if Dame became available. They would have to sweeten the pot a bit, but let's not forget someone like Lillard is 6 or 7 years older and on the wrong side of 30.

You're trying to overthink this too much. Simmons is easily a top 30 NBA player, and has been viewed in the past in the top 20. He just turned 25, and he has only been playing in the NBA for 4 years (All-Star in 3 of them). Yes, he has weaknesses (jump shooting), yes he's a mental bitch who was scared to attack in the playoffs because he suddenly became an awful FT shooter, but teams will always take that type of talent and potential because as we all know Simmons has the tools to be great and that will always draw interest from teams (especially small market ones that couldn't usually attract FA's like that).

Morey will get what he wants in a trade before he sells short on Simmons, you can believe that. Rich Paul tried to get big with Morey and look how that turned out...


Conveniently leaving out the fact that Har_en was being completely toxic to the Rockettes and demanded a trade. Simmons was only the main piece of that trade because as I said. A superstar wanted out.
It's shocking that you did this. I even mentioned this in my previous post.
You don't put together well written posts you continually throw on your blinders when you post. You're just as bad a harass and phil. At least phil got a title.

If Simmons was on a team and someone offered him + picks + young former lotto picks vs embiid. You'd laugh off the trade.

DM. Simmons will not net you a superstar unless said superstar demands a trade.
His trade value isn't in the dumpster due to his playoff performance. It's exactly the same as it was when Har_en demanded a trade. Young kid who is a great player already. But has flaws.

Philly is swinging for the fences and will not get the asking price because it's overpriced.
Philly literally asked for a 26/5/4 on 50% shooting + 2 firsts + 2 swaps for Simmons.
Literally asinine.
It's not happening.
The only way for something like that to happen is if Simmons develops offensively and lives up to the hype of the next lbj. But if that happened why would philly trade him?
I'm not hating, I'm not saying hes a horrible player. I'm not saying he doesn't have value.
^ All things you're known to claim at nausea.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Oct 12 2021 07:49pm
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Hahahaha, I nearly spit out my dinner. Too 15 player in return for Simmons right now hahahaha.

Dude was embarrassed last year and hasn’t taken a single step forward in his game since entering the league. Stop acting like he’s this blossoming young player, he’s not.


He hasn't taken a step forward offensively since entering the league. That much is true. If you are trying to say that he hasn't improved as a player since he entered the league then that is just plain wrong. Simmons has put an insane amount of work into his defense since he entered the league. That is the most frustrating part about the dude. He has put in a lot of work, but his offense has not shown much growth.
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Oct 12 2021 08:04pm
I know nothing else of note is going on right now, but I mean what more can we fucking say about this guy that hasnt already been said ten times.. CANT WAIT FOR THE DAMN SEASON TO START!!!
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Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Oct 12 2021 07:55pm)
Hahahaha, I nearly spit out my dinner. Too 15 player in return for Simmons right now hahahaha.

Dude was embarrassed last year and hasn’t taken a single step forward in his game since entering the league. Stop acting like he’s this blossoming young player, he’s not.


He can be argued as the single best defensive player in the NBA right now. And you're going to say he hasn't improved? Yes, we know his scoring ability hasn't changed much, but he has improved dramatically on defense and is another level of versatile.

Also, i didn't say "right now" he'd get that return, i said if he returns and starts playing he can easily be the centerpiece of a trade package for a top 15 player without question. I mean this guy was #16 on ESPN's top 100 players list last year for fucks sake, it's not like it's wild to suggest that a 3x All-Star, All-NBA and 2x All-Defense 1st team player at 24/25 years old could net a 30+ year old top 15 NBA player in a trade. Yes, it would be best to trade for a superstar that is demanding a trade that's usually the case anyway though, or simply trading with a team (i.e. smaller market teams) that's looking to rebuild and get younger.

Point being, he has to play and be on the court to really get full value for him. Him returning to play is beneficial for everyone and ultimately will help him and the Sixers get what they both want.

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He can be argued as the single best defensive player in the NBA right now. And you're going to say he hasn't improved? Yes, we know his scoring ability hasn't changed much, but he has improved dramatically on defense and is another level of versatile.

Also, i didn't say "right now" he'd get that return, i said if he returns and starts playing he can easily be the centerpiece of a trade package for a top 15 player without question. I mean this guy was #16 on ESPN's top 100 players list last year for fucks sake, it's not like it's wild to suggest that a 3x All-Star, All-NBA and 2x All-Defense 1st team player at 24/25 years old could net a 30+ year old top 15 NBA player in a trade. Yes, it would be best to trade for a superstar that is demanding a trade that's usually the case anyway though, or simply trading with a team (i.e. smaller market teams) that's looking to rebuild and get younger.

Point being, he has to play and be on the court to really get full value for him. Him returning to play is beneficial for everyone and ultimately will help him and the Sixers get what they both want.



Yeah yeah and PHI could be argued as championship contender every year except they don’t make it past the 2nd round.

You see, at some point the reality outweighs the potential.
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Yeah yeah and PHI could be argued as championship contender every year except they don’t make it past the 2nd round.

You see, at some point the reality outweighs the potential.


That's why they're trying to get rid of Simmons ;)
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That's why they're trying to get rid of Simmons ;)


Wrong.

They're trying to get rid of him because he refused to play for them again. Had he not done that they wouldn't even be looking at trades.
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Quote (Proint @ Oct 13 2021 12:10pm)
Wrong.

They're trying to get rid of him because he refused to play for them again. Had he not done that they wouldn't even be looking at trades.


You're trolling....

The Sixers clearly had every intention of trading him this off-season, that's not a secret by any means. They wanted him gone, the fans wanted him gone, and that's why everyone is now laughing at him for being the one to say he wants to be traded lmao
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You're trolling....

The Sixers clearly had every intention of trading him this off-season, that's not a secret by any means. They wanted him gone, the fans wanted him gone, and that's why everyone is now laughing at him for being the one to say he wants to be traded lmao


Mental gymnastics on a world class level.
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