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Oct 11 2021 01:02pm
Quote (SSBBWGiantessLover @ Oct 11 2021 02:56pm)
if Ben comes back and actually plays with a purpose this could be good. However, if he comes back and dogs it this will become a worse situation where they may be forced to have him sit at home and collect checks.

I hope he does the latter. Like deliberately sabotage the team.

Be like "Oh, you want me to report? Okay, I'll report." Force Morey's hand.

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I hope he does the latter. Like deliberately sabotage the team.

Be like "Oh, you want me to report? Okay, I'll report." Force Morey's hand.


Yep and that is a distinct possibility, his contractual obligation is to show up, not put forth his best effort. He could also pull a Kawhi and feign injury.
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Quote (SSBBWGiantessLover @ Oct 11 2021 02:56pm)
if Ben comes back and actually plays with a purpose this could be good. However, if he comes back and dogs it this will become a worse situation where they may be forced to have him sit at home and collect checks.


He could do that and the Sixers could not trade him and he'd just be destroying his own career.

This guy cares about his personal achievements. He wants to continue to be an All-Star every season, rack up more All-NBA awards, get more All-Defense selections. He isn't going to just not play hard.


First home game though he's getting boo'd like a mother fucker, that much is a guarantee.

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Sixers just trying to raise his trade value



100%

But he has to play to do that. Get on the court and play at his normal level and they'll have a MUCH easier time trading him.

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Oct 11 2021 04:21pm
I think Simmons is just going to fake a back injury or something. That way, he'll still get his $$ seeing as he reported to the team etc. I can't see him playing another second for Philly. The fans will fuckin crucify him lmao
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Oct 11 2021 07:12pm
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It'll be awkward, but it's necessary and beneficial for everyone involved.

Come back, play at his normal All-Star level, and allow the Sixers to then get real value in return for him before the deadline.

Klutch Sports takes a major L here. Paul Rich is a fucking clown and this made him look so bad.

https://i.imgur.com/f8ovIV2.png

"Daryl Morey was ready to take on the whole country of China and you think he’s afraid of Rich Paul?" :rofl:


His value will not change unless he shows he's able to take jumpers.
Simply because his value didn't change based off his playoff performance.
He's a great player. But he's not worth a top tier elite talent.
You'd scoff at the idea if someone offered Simmons for Embiid.

That's what you don't get. He was never worth a superstar like Lillard or Beal.
The only way you'll get that kind of package in return with Simmons as the main piece is if they specifically demand to be sent to philly. Or is playing the Har_en card.
Which isn't happening.
It's not rocket science to understand this.

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Sixers All-Star Ben Simmons has arrived in Philadelphia and took a Covid-19 test -- as required by NBA protocol, sources tell ESPN.
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His value will not change unless he shows he's able to take jumpers.
Simply because his value didn't change based off his playoff performance.
He's a great player. But he's not worth a top tier elite talent.
You'd scoff at the idea if someone offered Simmons for Embiid.

That's what you don't get. He was never worth a superstar like Lillard or Beal.
The only way you'll get that kind of package in return with Simmons as the main piece is if they specifically demand to be sent to philly. Or is playing the Har_en card.
Which isn't happening.
It's not rocket science to understand this.



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Quote (UnEvilManiac @ Oct 11 2021 09:12pm)
His value will not change unless he shows he's able to take jumpers.
Simply because his value didn't change based off his playoff performance.
He's a great player. But he's not worth a top tier elite talent.
You'd scoff at the idea if someone offered Simmons for Embiid.

That's what you don't get. He was never worth a superstar like Lillard or Beal.
The only way you'll get that kind of package in return with Simmons as the main piece is if they specifically demand to be sent to philly. Or is playing the Har_en card.
Which isn't happening.
It's not rocket science to understand this.


His value will be right where it was, which is at the level of being able to use him as the centerpiece to trade for a top 15 caliber player. Just as it was a few months ago when they turned down a trade for Harden for him. Sixers could easily use him as the centerpiece in a deal for someone like Dame, if Dame became available. They would have to sweeten the pot a bit, but let's not forget someone like Lillard is 6 or 7 years older and on the wrong side of 30.

You're trying to overthink this too much. Simmons is easily a top 30 NBA player, and has been viewed in the past in the top 20. He just turned 25, and he has only been playing in the NBA for 4 years (All-Star in 3 of them). Yes, he has weaknesses (jump shooting), yes he's a mental bitch who was scared to attack in the playoffs because he suddenly became an awful FT shooter, but teams will always take that type of talent and potential because as we all know Simmons has the tools to be great and that will always draw interest from teams (especially small market ones that couldn't usually attract FA's like that).

Morey will get what he wants in a trade before he sells short on Simmons, you can believe that. Rich Paul tried to get big with Morey and look how that turned out...

This post was edited by Sixers on Oct 12 2021 07:50am
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Oct 12 2021 07:52am
Quote (Winlaw @ Oct 11 2021 06:21pm)
I think Simmons is just going to fake a back injury or something. That way, he'll still get his $$ seeing as he reported to the team etc. I can't see him playing another second for Philly. The fans will fuckin crucify him lmao


The Collective Bargaining Agreement discusses this loophole and states how faking an injury to this extent is impossible. To summarize, if there’s a dispute about a player’s injury, a non-biased third party can be called upon to give an official physical to the player.

The best thing he can do is show up, try to put all of the drama aside, and play at a high level again which will make it easier for the Sixers to get an offer they like to move him.

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