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Aug 27 2020 12:01am
Quote (Eshay @ Aug 26 2020 10:49pm)
Yes Australian cops are like this, IF you RESIST arrest you they will use force, IF you RESIST the physical force and then PULL a knife you will get tasered, IF you go and then ATTEMPT to grab something from your car after YOU have been tased from using a KNIFE, you WILL get shot lmao thats fucking the stupidest comment ever man. Clearly you are out of your mind.

The cops used all avenues to subdue a guy who posed a SERIOUS threat to the police and society which resulted in him having to be shot. IDK how you can justify him not being shot?

Like i said in OP 7 times is excessive SURE but getting shot for Pulling a knife on cops and then atteempted to grab another weapon after being tazed is reasonable use of force

Edit/ Its not like they shot him when he had the knife, they gave him a chance by using a taser and he STILL didnt stop. like wtf more do you want the police to do?


so you're pretty much saying by watching that video, you were completely ok with what happened and what the cops did correct?
If that's your answer, then i understand now and i won't argue with you anymore.

Because after i watched that video, it sent chills down my spine and the situation could've been avoided 100% if the cops were better trained.
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Aug 27 2020 12:09am
The cops were called to handle a domestic dispute between a group of women. There are witnesses who said he was there to remove his son from the situation. He had no involvement, and the cops were called because the women didn't like him being there despite the fact he had clear grounds within his rights to remove his children from an unsafe place.

I have utmost respect for cops. I know the risks and dangers this occupations holds for women, men, and families alike. For those who carry this with integrity, I thank you for your hard work. But three officers unable to subdue a man, had to result in shooting him 7 times in the back? In front of his 3 children in the car?

Let me guess..

The guy wanted to die in front of his children, that was clearly his 'dying,' wish.

Did you guys even see the video? Everyone slowly walked around the car with him, instead of taking the time to take him down. And don't give me that bullshit that they couldn't have subdued him. The guy wasn't that big, but they somehow freely walk around the car and let him open the door?

How many thousands of time have we seen police officers take someone to the ground for less than that? Why would they not do it here? The cops should exhaust every possible non lethal option before they decide to unload 7 shots into a mans back.

I have seen multiple times cops running to get cover when someone runs back to their vehicles and now they are in a safer position to REACT. The whole point of policing is to ensure the safety of the public, themselves, and make sure the individual they are dealing with survives the outcome UNLESS they have confirmation the person has killed and is a visible threat. The problem is they assumed he was going back to grab something and they shot. Even if he did grab something, this needs to be confirmed before you unload bullets into someone who was NOT a threat at the end of the day. Pretty fucked up how people can justify killing someone especially when there are 3 cops present. And remember...

Cops were saying he has a knife, and not a gun.

Okay?

I know that's a threat to police officers, but there were 3 there... If your unable to fulfill your duties without having to resort to dangerous violence, then maybe police work isn't the occupation for you...

EDIT:

This is my last post in this topic ---

When was resisting arrest ever a capital offense? So should resisting arrest somehow end up in death? Is life meaningless nowadays? That we can decide who lives and dies? Cops need to understand that not listening to their commands does not give them a right to use lethal force, they are not judge, jury, and executioner.

This post was edited by ShampooMonK on Aug 27 2020 12:13am
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Aug 27 2020 12:16am
Quote (ShampooMonK @ Aug 26 2020 11:09pm)
The cops were called to handle a domestic dispute between a group of women. There are witnesses who said he was there to remove his son from the situation. He had no involvement, and the cops were called because the women didn't like him being there despite the fact he had clear grounds within his rights to remove his children from an unsafe place.

I have utmost respect for cops. I know the risks and dangers this occupations holds for women, men, and families alike. For those who carry this with integrity, I thank you for your hard work. But three officers unable to subdue a man, had to result in shooting him 7 times in the back? In front of his 3 children in the car?

Let me guess..

The guy wanted to die in front of his children, that was clearly his 'dying,' wish.

Did you guys even see the video? Everyone slowly walked around the car with him, instead of taking the time to take him down. And don't give me that bullshit that they couldn't have subdued him. The guy wasn't that big, but they somehow freely walk around the car and let him open the door?

How many thousands of time have we seen police officers take someone to the ground for less than that? Why would they not do it here? The cops should exhaust every possible non lethal option before they decide to unload 7 shots into a mans back.

I have seen multiple times cops running to get cover when someone runs back to their vehicles and now they are in a safer position to REACT. The whole point of policing is to ensure the safety of the public, themselves, and make sure the individual they are dealing with survives the outcome UNLESS they have confirmation the person has killed and is a visible threat. The problem is they assumed he was going back to grab something and they shot. Even if he did grab something, this needs to be confirmed before you unload bullets into someone who was NOT a threat at the end of the day. Pretty fucked up how people can justify killing someone especially when there are 3 cops present. And remember...

Cops were saying he has a knife, and not a gun.

Okay?

I know that's a threat to police officers, but there were 3 there... If your unable to fulfill your duties without having to resort to dangerous violence, then maybe police work isn't the occupation for you...

EDIT:

This is my last post in this topic ---

When was resisting arrest ever a capital offense? So should resisting arrest somehow end up in death? Is life meaningless nowadays? That we can decide who lives and dies? Cops need to understand that not listening to their commands does not give them a right to use lethal force, they are not judge, jury, and executioner.


absolutely on point.
well said
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Aug 27 2020 12:27am
terrible police work. cops should be fired for incompetence. Regardless if the guy was black or not and assuming he did rape a 14 year old, maybe he deserved it. Animals don’t deserve due process. Just like some politician’s kid or some wealthy guy’s kid. They deserve to die but were given due process which they easily beat and get away with the crime.


Also it seems the media is up to no good again trying to divide the country. They are the true criminals.

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Aug 27 2020 12:34am
Quote (ShampooMonK @ Aug 27 2020 04:09pm)
The cops were called to handle a domestic dispute between a group of women. There are witnesses who said he was there to remove his son from the situation. He had no involvement, and the cops were called because the women didn't like him being there despite the fact he had clear grounds within his rights to remove his children from an unsafe place.

I have utmost respect for cops. I know the risks and dangers this occupations holds for women, men, and families alike. For those who carry this with integrity, I thank you for your hard work. But three officers unable to subdue a man, had to result in shooting him 7 times in the back? In front of his 3 children in the car?

Let me guess..

The guy wanted to die in front of his children, that was clearly his 'dying,' wish.

Did you guys even see the video? Everyone slowly walked around the car with him, instead of taking the time to take him down. And don't give me that bullshit that they couldn't have subdued him. The guy wasn't that big, but they somehow freely walk around the car and let him open the door?

How many thousands of time have we seen police officers take someone to the ground for less than that? Why would they not do it here? The cops should exhaust every possible non lethal option before they decide to unload 7 shots into a mans back.

I have seen multiple times cops running to get cover when someone runs back to their vehicles and now they are in a safer position to REACT. The whole point of policing is to ensure the safety of the public, themselves, and make sure the individual they are dealing with survives the outcome UNLESS they have confirmation the person has killed and is a visible threat. The problem is they assumed he was going back to grab something and they shot. Even if he did grab something, this needs to be confirmed before you unload bullets into someone who was NOT a threat at the end of the day. Pretty fucked up how people can justify killing someone especially when there are 3 cops present. And remember...

Cops were saying he has a knife, and not a gun.

Okay?

I know that's a threat to police officers, but there were 3 there... If your unable to fulfill your duties without having to resort to dangerous violence, then maybe police work isn't the occupation for you...

EDIT:

This is my last post in this topic ---

When was resisting arrest ever a capital offense? So should resisting arrest somehow end up in death? Is life meaningless nowadays? That we can decide who lives and dies? Cops need to understand that not listening to their commands does not give them a right to use lethal force, they are not judge, jury, and executioner.


Dude, read some of the information out there and watch the other video from a different angle.

it is CLEAR that 1. He resisted arrest (Had a outstanding warrant so regardless of the situation leading up to it the police HAD to arrest him he HAD a WARRANT, or do oy upeople not understand what a WARRANT is)

2. When he resisted arrest he pulled a KNIFE on the police.

3. The police had to TASE him to disarm the knife from him

4. He STILL resisted and continued to obtain something else from under his seat.

In the MINDS of police if you are trying to arrest A known criminal with an outstanding warrent who has a past of violence and the rape of a 14 year old girl who is resisting you arresting him which then he pulls a knife on you, you taze him and it still doesnt work then he goes to grab something else? wouldn't you be scared or concerned for you life?

REGARDLESS of his history his ACTIONS are fucking stupid.

USING his HISTORY of violence and current WARRANT he's deemed a SERIOUS threat. like how the fuck can you blame the police?

This post was edited by Eshay on Aug 27 2020 12:38am
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Aug 27 2020 12:46am
Quote (Beast1 @ Aug 27 2020 01:56am)
Off topic here but I thought you were Brazilian who lived in brazil?


Dual citizenship

I have plenty of family in both countries.
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Aug 27 2020 12:48am
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Dual citizenship

I have plenty of family in both countries.



Do you live in the states or in Brazil? And you’re also Mexican?
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Aug 27 2020 12:49am
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Do you live in the states or in Brazil? And you’re also Mexican?


Juiz de Fora, MG Brasil

My name is Jose but I am not Mexican LOL. You may be thinking that because I said earlier that my mother came through Mexico.

Let's just say she crossed many borders on her way :D
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Aug 27 2020 12:50am
Quote (Eshay @ Aug 27 2020 02:34am)
Dude, read some of the information out there and watch the other video from a different angle.

it is CLEAR that 1. He resisted arrest (Had a outstanding warrant so regardless of the situation leading up to it the police HAD to arrest him he HAD a WARRANT, or do oy upeople not understand what a WARRANT is)

2. When he resisted arrest he pulled a KNIFE on the police.

3. The police had to TASE him to disarm the knife from him

4. He STILL resisted and continued to obtain something else from under his seat.

In the MINDS of police if you are trying to arrest someone and they pull a knife on you and then you taze them but they still continue to keep resisting and then go to grab something else what the fuck would you be thinking? A known criminal with an outstanding warrent who has a past of violence and the rape of a 14 year old girl who is resisting you arresting him which then he pulls a knife on you, you taze him and it still doesnt work then he goes to grab something else? wouldn't you be scared or concerned for you life?

REGARDLESS of his history his ACTIONS are fucking stupid.

USING his HISTORY of violence and current WARRANT he's deemed a SERIOUS threat. like how the fuck can you blame the police?


1. I've had a bench warrant out before, and I didn't show up to court. So do I suddenly deserve to die for that? You definitely don't know what a warrant is then.

2. Okay? And police officers have guns, right? So what is more deadlier... A knife or a gun? I get that he was a threat, but once again is there no way to subdue a man without shooting bullets in the back? He had his back turned... You're telling me you couldn't use excessive force to bring him down? Good thing my tax dollars are going into making sure police officers are getting the right training!

3. That didn't work, then you move on to other circumstantial procedures or methods that they teach you in the police academy..

4. I don't get that, but once again does that justify getting shot at? There is really no way 2 cops could've taken him down by holding his legs, and the other one hitting or physically restraining him? He had his back turned the entire time he was getting shot at.

Also, I don't know where you get your misleading facts about him raping a '14 year old,' girl.

The legislature for this "claim" is for Rhode Island. In the state of Wisconsin, where the warrant is issued, third-degree sexual assault does not carry an age limitation. This is NOT evidence that he rape a minor. The legislation in question here is Wisconsin State Legislature 940.225 subsection 3.

You should do some research first.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/26/facebook-posts/jacob-blake-not-child-rapist/

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2020CF000736&countyNo=30&index=0&mode=details

THERE were MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO APPREHEND THE man WITHOUT SHOOTING.

This is the problem with America. I know you're Aussie, but in America, cops are trained to shoot first and ask questions after.

Anyways, this is really my last post since it's clear you have a certain agenda and I'm not going to bother anymore.

EDIT:

Also the person recording the video said there was no knife.

Even Wisconsin Department of Justice revealed that there was a knife....

In his car.
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During the incident, officers attempted to arrest Jacob S. Blake, age 29. Law enforcement deployed a taser to attempt to stop Mr. Blake, however the taser was not successful in stopping Mr. Blake. Mr. Blake walked around his vehicle, opened the driver’s side door, and leaned forward. While holding onto Mr. Blake’s shirt, Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon 7 times. Officer Sheskey fired the weapon into Mr. Blake’s back. No other officer fired their weapon. Kenosha Police Department does not have body cameras, therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras.

The shooting officer, Kenosha Police Officer Rusten Sheskey, has been a law enforcement officer with Kenosha Police Department for seven years.

During the investigation following the initial incident, Mr. Blake admitted that he had a knife in his possession. DCI agents recovered a knife from the driver’s side floorboard of Mr. Blake’s vehicle.A search of the vehicle located no additional weapons.


https://www.doj.state.wi.us/news-releases/update-kenosha-officer-involved-shooting-0

But please go on about how having a knife and warrant/domestic abuse results in being shot at 7 times. In the back.

This post was edited by ShampooMonK on Aug 27 2020 01:09am
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Aug 27 2020 12:52am
I'm all American and not confused.
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