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Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Mar 22 2018 02:51pm)
but who cares if we beat the 76ers... doesn't bring us any closer to a championship. we won t least one playoff series each of the last two seasons... I want moar...


It absolutely does bring us closer. Even with Kyrie and Hayward, the Celtics would still need a few additions to get on Golden State's level. If free agents that want to join a contender see the Celtics making it to the ECF without their 2 best players, it could make a difference in who Ainge is able to land. Without Kyrie, the 3-4 seeding would define whether the Celtics have a shot at making the ECF.
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Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Mar 22 2018 12:51pm)
I know, I'm just preparing for the worst because it seems likely. what do you have against Chris Broussard? lol.

You really think we have a chance vs the Cavs w/ no Kyrie? I don't know about that man... with Love back, the Cavs will have their best 2 players while we'd be missing our best 2 players... Raptors are a different story because we all know their playoff history recently lol. We won't beat the Cavs without Kyrie, I'd put it at little to no chance.



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but who cares if we beat the 76ers... doesn't bring us any closer to a championship. we won t least one playoff series each of the last two seasons... I want moar...


Crazier things have happened. But I don't think we can win, but I'm not saying there's no chance.

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Who cares where we finish without Kyrie and Hayward, rofl


Kind of how I see it.

Quote (Kayeto @ Mar 22 2018 12:59pm)
It absolutely does bring us closer. Even with Kyrie and Hayward, the Celtics would still need a few additions to get on Golden State's level. If free agents that want to join a contender see the Celtics making it to the ECF without their 2 best players, it could make a difference in who Ainge is able to land. Without Kyrie, the 3-4 seeding would define whether the Celtics have a shot at making the ECF.


True, but we can only sign MLE and vet minimum contracts.

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Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Mar 22 2018 02:51pm)
I know, I'm just preparing for the worst because it seems likely. what do you have against Chris Broussard? lol.

You really think we have a chance vs the Cavs w/ no Kyrie? I don't know about that man... with Love back, the Cavs will have their best 2 players while we'd be missing our best 2 players... Raptors are a different story because we all know their playoff history recently lol. We won't beat the Cavs without Kyrie, I'd put it at little to no chance.



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but who cares if we beat the 76ers... doesn't bring us any closer to a championship. we won t least one playoff series each of the last two seasons... I want moar...



Pretty sure celtics were one and done 2 years ago actually
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Yep. Lost to hawks in 6 rofl
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True, but we can only sign MLE and vet minimum contracts.


Those are important contracts for a championship contender, but it isn't just about those guys.

4 teams, not including the Celtics, are currently in the luxury tax. Are you saying you think the Celtics would have a chance to compete with Golden State at some point in the next 2-3 years without also going into the tax?

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Those are important contracts for a championship contender, but it isn't just about those guys.

4 teams, not including the Celtics, are currently in the luxury tax. Are you saying you think the Celtics would have a chance to compete with Golden State at some points in the next 2-3 years without also going into the tax?


Not a fucking chance lmao
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Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Mar 22 2018 03:22pm)
Not a fucking chance lmao


Agreed, which is why my point about the Celtics making themselves an attractive place for free agents is relevant. It isn't just about the MLE/vet min guys.

The Warriors have 5 players making 17+mil/yr. The Celtics have 3. The Celtics road to the championship hinges on their ability to add another all-star (or hope that GS collapses).
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Quote (Kayeto @ Mar 22 2018 03:27pm)
Agreed, which is why my point about the Celtics making themselves an attractive place for free agents is relevant. It isn't just about the MLE/vet min guys.

The Warriors have 5 players making 17+mil/yr. The Celtics have 3. The Celtics road to the championship hinges on their ability to add another all-star (or hope that GS collapses).


Nah
Our road to the championships needs time and that's it
2-3 years Tatum/Brown ^_____^
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Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Mar 22 2018 02:58pm)
Who cares where we finish without Kyrie and Hayward, rofl


Thank you lmao. This is what i've been saying... i'm no trying to be a debbie downer just realistic.
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Mar 22 2018 01:33pm
Quote (Kayeto @ Mar 22 2018 01:19pm)
Those are important contracts for a championship contender, but it isn't just about those guys.

4 teams, not including the Celtics, are currently in the luxury tax. Are you saying you think the Celtics would have a chance to compete with Golden State at some point in the next 2-3 years without also going into the tax?


My point is that next year, we're already in the luxury tax.

The only players we can bring in are mainly veteran minimum contracts. Which is why I said that. I don't see Ainge going after Monroe contracts anymore, because our flexibility is very low.

Quote (Kayeto @ Mar 22 2018 01:27pm)
Agreed, which is why my point about the Celtics making themselves an attractive place for free agents is relevant. It isn't just about the MLE/vet min guys.

The Warriors have 5 players making 17+mil/yr. The Celtics have 3. The Celtics road to the championship hinges on their ability to add another all-star (or hope that GS collapses).


I think you just proved my point lol.

Warriors have 5 players making 17+, but everyone except Curry is taking a discounted rate.

Literally, the Warriors needed certain things to happen, and unfortunately, they managed to nail it.

This post was edited by pAiLiXziX on Mar 22 2018 01:34pm
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