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Jun 11 2024 01:37pm
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Jun 12 2024 05:34am)
Why are you confirming that you're not watching the series?

LMFAO. 1 play in transition, 2 minutes into the series means they are playing zone :rofl:

https://watchreplay.net/mavericks-vs-celtics-nba-finals-game-2-june-9-2024/21079/

If you can point out more than 1 zone play in the 1st half of game 2, I'll give you a cookie.

No team is stupid enough to play zone vs. the Celtics spacing....



Guy really posted 1 video of a zone, on ONE Tatum play… sat back, rubbing his hands together thinking to himself “yep, got ‘Em boys…. Absolutely got ‘em.”
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Jun 11 2024 01:38pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 03:36pm)
A. That’s a zone in that video, but they haven’t played a zone entirely

B. No one ever, ever, said Tatum was being triple teamed. (except vilify but who cares about his opinion).

C. They only run this defense when Tatum has the ball, and they only collapse the defense when it’s Tatum driving. Brown hasn’t seen anywhere near that focus, neither has Dez, Jrue, KP. They have let KP be on an island the entire time. This is purely to stop Tatum

D. That cunts voice is annoying af


He isn't watching lol

That's not even a zone

Gafford picks him up because Jones is smart enough to play the corner man

If Jones tries to pick up Tatum, Gafford can't match up. If Gafford backs up when Jones tries to pick him, White can stand or cut......even Tatum can drive if Gafford attempts to rotate before Jones arrives.....it's not difficult

DM is so dumb it hurts sometimes

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Jun 11 2024 01:40pm
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Jun 11 2024 01:56pm
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Jun 12 2024 05:38am)
He isn't watching lol

That's not even a zone

Gafford picks him up because Jones is smart enough to play the corner man

If Jones tries to pick up Tatum, Gafford can't match up. If Gafford backs up when Jones tries to pick him, White can stand or cut......even Tatum can drive if Gafford attempts to rotate before Jones arrives.....it's not difficult

DM is so dumb it hurts sometimes



Yeah I’ve not seen the mavs play zone at all. This video does appear to be a zone but it’s one video, not in a half court set, and the defenders are likely lost. They haven’t played genuine zone in either of the 2 games.

Now the heat were legitimately zone on a consistent basis. And it did not work at all.

Dm is spamming Tatums shooting efficiency everywhere like it’s some big brain take. The whole world knows Tatum is shooting poorly lol even he knows it. That’s a casual observation by simply peeping the box score. The actual high IQ take is understanding his offensive impact on the game.

This post was edited by Nwotmik on Jun 11 2024 02:00pm
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Jun 11 2024 02:04pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 12:56pm)
Yeah I’ve not seen the mavs play zone at all. This video does appear to be a zone but it’s one video, not in a half court set, and the defenders are likely lost. They haven’t played genuine zone in either of the 2 games.

Now the heat were legitimately zone on a consistent basis. And it did not work at all.

Dm is spamming Tatums shooting efficiency everywhere like it’s some big brain take. The whole world knows Tatum is shooting poorly lol even he knows it. That’s a casual observation by simply peeping the box score. The actual high IQ take is understanding his offensive impact on the game.


Tatum sucks.
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Jun 11 2024 02:13pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 03:56pm)
Yeah I’ve not seen the mavs play zone at all. This video does appear to be a zone but it’s one video, not in a half court set, and the defenders are likely lost. They haven’t played genuine zone in either of the 2 games.

Now the heat were legitimately zone on a consistent basis. And it did not work at all.

Dm is spamming Tatums shooting efficiency everywhere like it’s some big brain take. The whole world knows Tatum is shooting poorly lol even he knows it. That’s a casual observation by simply peeping the box score. The actual high IQ take is understanding his offensive impact on the game.


He begins by informing you that it's a 3-2 zone with GAFFORD playing up top? We already know that isn't true lol

Gafford crashed the board and failed. The Mavs defense is already in shambles.

Gafford was then forced to pick the ball or let Tatum run free. D. White sprinted straight to the corner once he saw what Gafford did. Someone is going to be forced to pick up him because there's no way Gafford would have been able to. Kyrie picked up Jrue and Jones shaded towards White because he would never have been able to match up with Tatum while Gafford would have attempted to switch to White or Jrue if Kyrie rotates.
Just because Jones and Kyrie shaded doesn't mean it's zone. It means they aren't stupid and realized Gafford is in big trouble.

That's not a zone. That's a terrible offensive rebound attempt that leads to breakdowns every where against a team that's just too good offensively.

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Jun 11 2024 02:14pm
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Jun 11 2024 02:25pm
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Jun 12 2024 06:13am)
He begins by informing you that it's a 3-2 zone with GAFFORD playing up top? We already know that isn't true lol

Gafford crashed the board and failed. The Mavs defense is already in shambles.

Gafford was then forced to pick the ball or let Tatum run free. D. White sprinted straight to the corner once he saw what Gafford did. Someone is going to be forced to pick up him because there's no way Gafford would have been able to. Kyrie picked up Jrue and Jones shaded towards White because he would never have been able to match up with Tatum while Gafford would have attempted to switch to White or Jrue if Kyrie rotates.
Just because Jones and Kyrie shaded doesn't mean it's zone. It means they aren't stupid and realized Gafford is in big trouble.

That's not a zone. That's a terrible offensive rebound attempt that leads to breakdowns every where against a team that's just too good offensively.



It’s not a surprise that dm has no idea how to read a defense.

I remember asking dm in the pacers series how we could realistically avoid Horford being switched into Haliburton (when he was burning us early in the series) and his response was “hOrFoRd sHouLd HeDgE oN dA sWiTCH”

The most brain dead solution I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure he even knows what hedging is. But yeah, that’s going to work well for a guy who can shoot 30” consistently.
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Jun 11 2024 02:25pm
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Jun 11 2024 01:13pm)
He begins by informing you that it's a 3-2 zone with GAFFORD playing up top? We already know that isn't true lol

Gafford crashed the board and failed. The Mavs defense is already in shambles.

Gafford was then forced to pick the ball or let Tatum run free. D. White sprinted straight to the corner once he saw what Gafford did. Someone is going to be forced to pick up him because there's no way Gafford would have been able to. Kyrie picked up Jrue and Jones shaded towards White because he would never have been able to match up with Tatum while Gafford would have attempted to switch to White or Jrue if Kyrie rotates.
Just because Jones and Kyrie shaded doesn't mean it's zone. It means they aren't stupid and realized Gafford is in big trouble.

That's not a zone. That's a terrible offensive rebound attempt that leads to breakdowns every where against a team that's just too good offensively.


Didn't read but I agree
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Jun 11 2024 02:47pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 04:25pm)
It’s not a surprise that dm has no idea how to read a defense.

I remember asking dm in the pacers series how we could realistically avoid Horford being switched into Haliburton (when he was burning us early in the series) and his response was “hOrFoRd sHouLd HeDgE oN dA sWiTCH”

The most brain dead solution I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure he even knows what hedging is. But yeah, that’s going to work well for a guy who can shoot 30” consistently.


Celtics were never going to be able to avoid it because there is no chance they were going to leave wide open 3 pt shooters. Especially a guy like Turner who can shoot over almost anyone.
They've allowed Al to play 1v1 all year. I'll take that iso against Al vs. an uncontested catch and shoot 3.
Nembhard took full advantage of that.

You were right about the Heat though. Those 2-3 zones still haunt me. It was just embarrassing watching Duncan Robinson stay on the court because he could play defense by sitting at the elbow area. Fucking gross man.
That shit is over though. Celtics destroy that garbage now b)

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Jun 11 2024 02:48pm
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Jun 11 2024 03:46pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 01:25pm)
It’s not a surprise that dm has no idea how to read a defense.

I remember asking dm in the pacers series how we could realistically avoid Horford being switched into Haliburton (when he was burning us early in the series) and his response was “hOrFoRd sHouLd HeDgE oN dA sWiTCH”

The most brain dead solution I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure he even knows what hedging is. But yeah, that’s going to work well for a guy who can shoot 30” consistently.


Quote (Proint @ Jun 11 2024 01:25pm)
Didn't read but I agree


Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Jun 11 2024 01:47pm)
Celtics were never going to be able to avoid it because there is no chance they were going to leave wide open 3 pt shooters. Especially a guy like Turner who can shoot over almost anyone.
They've allowed Al to play 1v1 all year. I'll take that iso against Al vs. an uncontested catch and shoot 3.
Nembhard took full advantage of that.

You were right about the Heat though. Those 2-3 zones still haunt me. It was just embarrassing watching Duncan Robinson stay on the court because he could play defense by sitting at the elbow area. Fucking gross man.
That shit is over though. Celtics destroy that garbage now b)


after Dallas wins by 40 in game 3 you all be mia :lol:

Boston Sucks!
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Jun 11 2024 03:51pm
Quote (Nwotmik @ Jun 11 2024 04:25pm)
It’s not a surprise that dm has no idea how to read a defense.

I remember asking dm in the pacers series how we could realistically avoid Horford being switched into Haliburton (when he was burning us early in the series) and his response was “hOrFoRd sHouLd HeDgE oN dA sWiTCH”

The most brain dead solution I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure he even knows what hedging is. But yeah, that’s going to work well for a guy who can shoot 30” consistently.


Homie, you didn't even know what hedging on a screen meant. You legit googled it and posted the first explanation you found 😭
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