Oh really, how many rings did he win in Orlando?

And no, Shaq didn't do "far more" than Embiid in Orlando. Check the numbers again. Embiid top 5 in scoring last season (28 PPG), second in rebounding, All-Defense selection and finished top 3 in DPOY voting. Shaq never had a season like that in Orlando.

Shaq and Penny were awesome in Orlando, but he didn't win until he went to LA.

Shaqs seasons in Orlando.

23.4/13.9/56% (41w/41L)(rookie of the Year) improved 20 games to year prior
29.3/13.2/59% (50w-32L) first magic playoffs ever
29.3/11.4/53% (57w-25L)(2nd in mvp, lost to hakeem in finals, beat Jordan in his 1st season back from retirement)
26.6/11/57% (injuried)

Seems fine to me.



people seem to forget how athletic Shaq was in early Orlando days lol... Guy was a freak..

He got fat once he went to Lakers and I don't really blame him lol.
2000 shaq was prolly around 300lb and actually gained weight to deal with Sabonis in the next years.
If he kept his early Lakers year weight he wouldn't be that bad on pick and roll. I do give props to embiid for sheding weight though this year. Still needs to chill with the 3s.



Wider array of skills doesn't necessarily mean more talented.
Just a matter of diversity vs specialization.

Shaq has 3 moves and you still can't stop him.

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Remember in the playoffs when embiid whos supppose to be this domiinant force would just sit at the 3 point line and take plays off nonstop?

Shaq weighed 50 more pounds then Embiid played far more physical in a Era where big men banged iiinsiide all game and still never gassed like embiid does every night while he rests at the 3 poiint liine.

Don't ever compare the two agaiin you fucking tard.

Embiid is famous for the amount of times he has cried after the playoffss then series wiins

Lolol Shaq's era was less physically demanding for centers because they could just stand in the paint all game and were never asked to step out and defend the perimeter.

Not to mention players now are better athletes, faster, stronger and more explosive. Most old school centers wouldn't survive in today's space and pace game.

Also, there isn't a bigger myth than the bullshit people spew on the internet about defenses being better back then. Kind of like Jordan's era, when he played in an expansion era and so many teams in the league were still being established. The talent pool was wayyyy smaller than what it is today globally.

Embiid can't win a series averaging 30/10 like he did if the perimeter players on his team literally can't shoot or create shots 🤷‍♂️

4 pages to try and defend a man who got swept

Averaged 30/10 this series lmao

Tough to win when your teammates can't hit a three to save their life.