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Aug 30 2023 09:19am
Quote (Flameyes @ Aug 30 2023 08:25am)
When you have a young star who needs spacing around him, drafting a pg who everyone knew was an abysmal shooter and had very little chance of improving in that area is not what I would consider a good decision. His defensive strengths were also not as needed when embiid is one of the premier rim protectors in the league

Maybe they were trying to hedge their bets in case embiid’s injury problems halted his career but even in that case there was never any point in time where Ben Simmons looked like a franchise player. BI, JB, hield, and Murray were all top 10 picks in that draft and the fit with any of them would have been leagues better


This is silly....WHO would have taken any of those players ahead of Simmons in that draft???? There was no question who was going first. He was first on every board across the league.

Simmons was the consensus #1. It was THE Ben Simmons draft. He was projected with superstar potential. There's no denying his physical gifts and skill, he's a rare breed. His mental toughness and desire to improve and adjust is a different story though.

Either way, it's not like he was a total bust. He was a damn good player in Philly, just didn't improve and had a mental breakdown. In just 4 years he was ROY, 3x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, and 2x All-Defense 1st team. He also won a lot of games every season and helped turn the team around immediately his first season (led the most productive starting unit in the NBA that season).

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This is silly....WHO would have taken any of those players ahead of Simmons in that draft???? There was no question who was going first. He was first on every board across the league.

Simmons was the consensus #1. It was THE Ben Simmons draft. He was projected with superstar potential. There's no denying his physical gifts and skill, he's a rare breed. His mental toughness and desire to improve and adjust is a different story though.

Either way, it's not like he was a total bust. He was a damn good player in Philly, just didn't improve and had a mental breakdown. In just 4 years he was ROY, 3x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, and 2x All-Defense 1st team. He also won a lot of games every season and helped turn the team around immediately his first season (led the most productive starting unit in the NBA that season).


so what you sayin is the 76ers dun goofed? if I was a fan of that team I'd be pissed off that they botched the development of a potentially top 5 player. also they stood by allowing their HC and running mate trash him, meanwhile evading their accountability for the humiliating loss to Atlanta.

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Quote (MildSambal @ Aug 30 2023 10:47am)
so what you sayin is the 76ers dun goofed? if I was a fan of that team I'd be pissed off that they botched the development of a potentially top 5 player. also they stood by allowing their HC and running mate trash him, meanwhile evading their accountability for the humiliating loss to Atlanta.


You can't always predict a players mindset after they're in the NBA. There were concerns before the draft, but he was simply too good to pass up. The pros outweighed the cons. It also didn't help that he was drafted to a tough city with fans and media who can sniff softness out and will eat you alive as a pro athlete.

And yes, we can absolutely pin that Hawks series on Simmons. In that series we saw Embiid play great while being triple teamed as Ben Simmons refused to even look at the rim or show any sort of aggression. It was sad, but it was the final straw for most (including myself) because he visibly quit on the team and was no longer even trying.
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