imo, they won't get more than a solid starter +a 1st round draft pick/players to match salaries
His contract is death

It's absurd that they offered these

James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, the No. 7 and No. 14 pick
OG Anunoby, Kyle Lowry, Fred VanVleet, and 4th pick
Spurs 4 first-round picks, three first-round pick swaps, and a young player in exchange. I'm going to assume they were asking for Murray.

Rejected Brogdon and a 1st
More than likely rejected CJ McCollum +filler/pick

I don't see them getting anything better than that but I do believe they can easily pull off a trade for that return at any moment. That's probably why they aren't rushing to move him.

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Sep 17 2021 12:40am

His contract isn't the problem, he's a max contract player by all accounts in the NBA. That type of contract isn't just reserved for top 10 players these days lol. If anything his contract still having 4 years on it is great for the Sixers, as the team trading for him has security knowing he's locked in.

Teams aren't offering a big package because A.) His value is at its lowest right now coming off that horrible 2nd round playoff series and B.) They know the Sixers have to move him and the buyers have leverage. If they had tried to move him during the season they could have easily gotten a star/superstar in return, I mean for fucks sake they could have received James Harden and weren't really sure they wanted that. I mean it was an argument between fans and such whether trading Simmons for Harden would have been beneficial, how it would have hurt the team, etc. Obviously now (after seeing that pathetic 2nd round performance) we'd love to have Harden in his place, but during the season as the #1 seed there was no question we could all see Simmons value and how much the team needed him (they struggled when he was out).

People live in this "what have you done for me lately" mentality in the NBA, NFL, etc, and that's the case here. Yes, we know he was dog shit in the 2nd round and and completely checked out, but people still act like Simmons isn't a highly accomplished 24/25 year old.

No one isn't acting like he isn't a valuable player. Literally no one worth listening to is.
You've spouted this off the entire off-season and it's pathetic.
Literally the only question about Simmons and his accomplishments is would he be an all-star in the West. Which is extremely doubtful.
Any objective basketball fan would state that.

People are saying he's a flawed player and isn't worth a top tier superstar. He wasn't last year, he wasn't the year previous.
He's more valuable to Philly than anyone else and seeing him improve means Philly could either win in a trade OR win it all.
Taper your expectations and stop trying to beg a franchise gifts you their best player for peanuts. Cause frankly that's what Philly has been wanting. Simmons is not a younger LBJ. He's Ben Simmons.

The only reason why Har_en was available for trade is because he literally forced his way out. Otherwise Simmons + potential young players would not be enough for Har_en.
Basically, unless a superstar forces their way out of a team. Simmons will not be the guy who gets you a Lillard, A Leonard, A Westbrick, A AD, etc.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Sep 18 2021 10:50am

3x All-Star
1x All-NBA 3rd team
2x All-Defense 1st team

All by the age of 24, in his first 4 seasons playing in the NBA.

I really don't need to say much else. The list of players that have resumes that decorated in their first 4 years is very small. Not to mention his record in the NBA in games played of 180-97 in his first 4 years, and his team has been a 60% or better win team every season as the 3rd seed or better in 3 of those 4 seasons.

This post was edited by Sixers on Sep 19 2021 03:35pm

Did you fail 2nd grade reading?
I'll repeat myself and make it big letters for you.
No one is saying Simmons isn't a valuable nor are they saying he isn't accomplished.

There are objective questions on if he'd be an all-star in the West...Being that Devin Booker has yet to make the all-star game in the West.... But he'd certainly still be an all-defensive 1st team player. Likely an all-nba 3rd team selection too.
But he's still not worth a top tier superstar unless the top tier superstar asks out.
You're delusional if you think he is. He + scraps or late firsts will not net you a player of that caliber.
Do you consider a lower tier player in Irving a superstar? You prolly could get him for Simmons + scraps.

You literally have nothing to add to the conversation because you know I'm right.
I'm not talking bad about him. Not calling him trash. Literally stop being ignorant.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Sep 19 2021 03:49pm

Hi

Im saying he isnt valuable and he definitely isnt accomplished

Please see my previous post.
Thanks.
Made it obvious for you.

You're saying he's not worth a top tier superstar....yeah, no shit LOL. Nobody is worth a top tier superstar except another top tier superstar. Like 5 players in the league fall into that category.

I'm not really sure what the hell you're trying to argue honestly.

what has he accomplished besides 2xROTY and shooting 4 shots in the 4th quarter of a game 7 when you get paid 200million dollars. I would say the latter is a much more difficult feet. Not to do, but just living with yourself afterwards...

and The whole fucking league every scout and coach is saying no to what Morey wants to it seems the entire league says Simmons isn't valuable right now.

I been on the Simmons is garbage train since day 1 and to be honest he just climbs further and further into that trash can bro.

I mean you say something like "what has he accomplished, etc, etc, etc" but we literally just said that in addition to being ROY he's highly accomplished in his first 4 seasons....more accomplished than pretty much everyone else in his age/experience group rofl.

Let's see....comparing him to guys in his age/experience group in the NBA in terms of "what have they accomplished"

Simmons: 3x All Star, 1x All-NBA, 2x All-Defense 1st team
Mitchell: 2x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Young: 1x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Tatum: 2x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Murray: 0x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Booker: 2x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Ingram: 1x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense
Brown: 1x All-Star, 0x All-NBA, 0x All-Defense