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Sep 8 2021 10:37pm
Quote (Sixers @ Sep 8 2021 11:33pm)
100% lol

Brogdon is a fine player, don't get me wrong. He'd certainly help the team, but that's not the return Morey wants or is willing to accept.

If i'm being honest here, I think the Sixers front office is ready to let Simmons sit out and fine the shit out of him. He'll be fined over $1.3M for sitting out of camp, and then once the reg season starts he loses huge money every day.



Spurning Klutch probably isn’t a good idea and what kind of message does that send to free agents in general?

Brogdon is much better than getting nothing that’s for damn sure. Look at how the Celtics shot themselves in the foot by passing on Myles Turner to instead end up with a rental of Evan Fournier instead
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I'm waiting for an offer that Morey "wants or is willing to accept"

in his delusional mind its an All-Star + multiple unprotected 1sts + pick swaps or a 1st team All-NBA caliber player in his prime
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I'm waiting for an offer that Morey "wants or is willing to accept"

in his delusional mind its an All-Star + multiple unprotected 1sts + pick swaps or a 1st team All-NBA caliber player in his prime


This is the time of the off-season where teams have their beer muscles, they feel good and don't want to get rid of what they have because they have high hopes for their team and they have players that sell tickets (i.e. Portland with Lillard who is the cities hero). Once the season comes around, things change....they ALWAYS do. Players become frustrated, front offices don't like how their team is performing, etc. It's the NBA, the temperature changes every other week once the season kicks off. Then the pressure is on to improve and get a fresh face in town and the Sixers are sitting on a 24 year old 3x All-Star and All-Defensive 1st team player that can vastly change a teams outlook (at least in the regular season that is). We all know how incredibly valuable Simmons is in the regular season at this point, he will certainly give a team that much and for some teams that's more than enough despite his questionable postseason value offensively.

Selling Simmons now means the Sixers are selling him during the dip, and why would they do that? Even if it takes going into the regular season with him out, and waiting for a team to get desperate to upgrade or switch things up then so be it. The vast majority of 76ers fans are fine with going into the season with Simmons holding out and just riding it out with who we have, and letting Maxey get his chance to shine. Even if it means we sacrifice regular season wins early on in the season, then so be it. I saw a poll the other day where thousands of 76ers fans voted, and like 88% of them said they're fine with letting Simmons sit out and riding with the team we have waiting for a fair offer, even if the team isn't as good in the regular season.

We aren't winning it all in the playoffs with Simmons, we've already established that. So what do we have to lose? Let Maxey ball out and pump up his value, then there's a good chance any big trade for an opposing star player would include Simmons and Maxey (both of them are signed with Klutch).

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This is the time of the off-season where teams have their beer muscles, they feel good and don't want to get rid of what they have because they have high hopes for their team and they have players that sell tickets (i.e. Portland with Lillard who is the cities hero). Once the season comes around, things change....they ALWAYS do. Players become frustrated, front offices don't like how their team is performing, etc. It's the NBA, the temperature changes every other week once the season kicks off. Then the pressure is on to improve and get a fresh face in town and the Sixers are sitting on a 24 year old 3x All-Star and All-Defensive 1st team player that can vastly change a teams outlook (at least in the regular season that is). We all know how incredibly valuable Simmons is in the regular season at this point, he will certainly give a team that much and for some teams that's more than enough despite his questionable postseason value offensively.

Selling Simmons now means the Sixers are selling him during the dip, and why would they do that? Even if it takes going into the regular season with him out, and waiting for a team to get desperate to upgrade or switch things up then so be it. The vast majority of 76ers fans are fine with going into the season with Simmons holding out and just riding it out with who we have, and letting Maxey get his chance to shine. Even if it means we sacrifice regular season wins early on in the season, then so be it. I saw a poll the other day where thousands of 76ers fans voted, and like 88% of them said they're fine with letting Simmons sit out and riding with the team we have waiting for a fair offer, even if the team isn't as good in the regular season.

We aren't winning it all in the playoffs with Simmons, we've already established that. So what do we have to lose? Let Maxey ball out and pump up his value, then there's a good chance any big trade for an opposing star player would include Simmons and Maxey (both of them are signed with Klutch).


this is very similar to the Kawhi situation except the contract. what team is going to pay full value for Simmons if they aren't guaranteed that he is going to give 100% effort? Philly is already a huge market and has been a contender (on paper) multiple seasons now. how many teams in the league can offer that? then how many of those teams are in a position to deal with the 76ers and actually want to? the only small market team we could reasonably include on the potential suitor list is Minnesota.

another thing to factor in is that the 76ers aren't going to be as interested in high caliber prospects (like SGA or Wiseman) nor are they going to be as interested in projected lottery picks

they need a point guard who can shoot the 3. hard to come up with a list of guys who are both better than Brogdon and available in a trade, plus the major risk Simmons runs to sulk if he were traded to an Indiana or Memphis type of team





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Quote (Sixers @ Sep 8 2021 11:33am)
100% lol

Brogdon is a fine player, don't get me wrong. He'd certainly help the team, but that's not the return Morey wants or is willing to accept.

If i'm being honest here, I think the Sixers front office is ready to let Simmons sit out and fine the shit out of him. He'll be fined over $1.3M for sitting out of camp, and then once the reg season starts he loses huge money every day.


It will never get old hearing that lol
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Quote (SSBBWGiantessLover @ Sep 9 2021 10:30am)
this is very similar to the Kawhi situation except the contract. what team is going to pay full value for Simmons if they aren't guaranteed that he is going to give 100% effort? Philly is already a huge market and has been a contender (on paper) multiple seasons now. how many teams in the league can offer that? then how many of those teams are in a position to deal with the 76ers and actually want to? the only small market team we could reasonably include on the potential suitor list is Minnesota.

another thing to factor in is that the 76ers aren't going to be as interested in high caliber prospects (like SGA or Wiseman) nor are they going to be as interested in projected lottery picks

they need a point guard who can shoot the 3. hard to come up with a list of guys who are both better than Brogdon and available in a trade, plus the major risk Simmons runs to sulk if he were traded to an Indiana or Memphis type of team


At this point it sounds as if Simmons is willing to play anywhere except Philly. His feelings are hurt because Doc Rivers questioned him after game 7, and because fans say mean words.

Quote (FunkDoc @ Sep 9 2021 11:04am)
It will never get old hearing that lol


Why sell for pennies on the dollar?
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Sep 9 2021 09:35am
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At this point it sounds as if Simmons is willing to play anywhere except Philly. His feelings are hurt because Doc Rivers questioned him after game 7, and because fans say mean words.



Why sell for pennies on the dollar?


:rofl:
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Quote (FunkDoc @ Sep 9 2021 11:35am)
:rofl:


Ah, okay. I appreciate the response.
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Sep 9 2021 09:45am
People are so ridiculous.

I was walking to a couple people at my work today and they were legit defending Simmons.

Bro I might have to fucking get these two mother fuckers fired.

There are people that legit defend Simmons, and say that Philly deserves what is happening because Doc Rivers talked shit to Simmons. There are people legit saying that. WOW. Fuck. Those . People. Fuck them hard!

What the fuck is wrong with the world when plebs are defending a primadonna that is getting paid 200million dollars to win basketball games, then doesnt win basketball games.

Wow dude basketball casuals fucking suck


I personally feel the league needs to step in and help the Sixers to not have to pay or play this kid. Rich Paul and co are legitimately making a mockery of the NBA and the NBA needs to address that in their new collective bargaining agreement because this is fucking insane what is happening bro They actually need to stop Simmons from being able to do this. Players should n ot be able to simply take 200milly then say naw I dont wanna play you made fun of me... Like seriously dude this has to stop.

This Kid is acting like he can take advantage of a Billion dollar fucking company. There has to be a change at the next cba

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Ah, okay. I appreciate the response.


Lol I thought it was a joke
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