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Jun 22 2021 11:14am
Quote (darki99 @ Jun 22 2021 01:01pm)
The shooter AD/Lebron needs. It hard to match salaries unless Sixers want Schroeder in a sign & trade

Simmons for KCP / Schroeder would work :rofl:


he has a 15 % trade kicker on top. 177/5 -> 203/5



thats robbery from the Sixers. Brogdon > Simmons alone



I agree but both teams could use a shake up, and have the pieces around those players in their new homes makes sense. Pacers offer enough shooting and could use a little star power to get over the hump. Malcom Seth and Tobias and say the Pacers throw in Dougie Buckets then that gives Embiid all the room in the world to work. And for the Pacers Simmons running LeVert Warren Sabonis and Turner would also give him plenty of room to work. Just a thought, not saying this will happen by any means lol
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Voted G League

This post was edited by FallenZealot on Jun 22 2021 11:45am
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Quote (SwiShh @ Jun 22 2021 09:14am)
I agree but both teams could use a shake up, and have the pieces around those players in their new homes makes sense. Pacers offer enough shooting and could use a little star power to get over the hump. Malcom Seth and Tobias and say the Pacers throw in Dougie Buckets then that gives Embiid all the room in the world to work. And for the Pacers Simmons running LeVert Warren Sabonis and Turner would also give him plenty of room to work. Just a thought, not saying this will happen by any means lol


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Jun 22 2021 01:36pm
Simmons for Fultz s/u
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Jun 22 2021 02:53pm
Quote (Sixers @ Jun 22 2021 05:59am)
Vegas odds on Ben Simmons next team if traded:

Portland Trail Blazers +200
Washington Wizards +300
San Antonio Spurs +400
Utah Jazz +500
Oklahoma City Thunder +550
Golden State Warriors +600
Los Angeles Lakers +650
Cleveland Cavaliers +700
Houston Rockets +1000





Oh how far we've fallen with the Ben Simmons talks. A 24 year old 3x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive 1st team selection four years into his NBA career. For a 29 year old 8 year vet who has never been an All-Star or All-NBA selection, and is a weaker defender. McCollum would be a good fit though but fuck talk about biting the bullet.

Wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Simmons start the season in Philly next year so the Sixers can move him when his value is higher (i.e. not coming off a miserable second round playoff series).


I'd argue that CJ would be an all-star if not willingly playing 2nd fiddle to Lillard.
Also the consensus around the league for several years now is that CJ's numbers would benefit playing as the lead guard on his own team.(Especially considering his numbers increase whenever Lillard is out)
The team would still be embiids. But lets not pretend like CJ isn't an elite 3 level scorer.

Ben Simmons otoh is just as flawed as CJ. Just on the offensive side of the ball. Starting to look like his ceiling is right where he is at as well.

CJ isn't going to net you a giant haul. But neither is Ben Simmons.
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Jun 22 2021 02:56pm
Quote (UnEvilManiac @ Jun 22 2021 04:53pm)
I'd argue that CJ would be an all-star if not willingly playing 2nd fiddle to Lillard.
Also the consensus around the league for several years now is that CJ's numbers would benefit playing as the lead guard on his own team.(Especially considering his numbers increase whenever Lillard is out)
The team would still be embiids. But lets not pretend like CJ isn't an elite 3 level scorer.

Ben Simmons otoh is just as flawed as CJ. Just on the offensive side of the ball. Starting to look like his ceiling is right where he is at as well.

CJ isn't going to net you a giant haul. But neither is Ben Simmons.


Sort of a terrible excuse though, because Simmons has been playing behind Embiid for the last 3 years and he has been an All-Star (and All-NBA one of them) each of those seasons.
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Quote (Sixers @ Jun 22 2021 01:56pm)
Sort of a terrible excuse though, because Simmons has been playing behind Embiid for the last 3 years and he has been an All-Star (and All-NBA one of them) each of those seasons.


not agreeing or disagreeing with either of you but

guard in the west =/= guard in the east
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Jun 22 2021 04:01pm
Quote (Sixers @ Jun 22 2021 12:56pm)
Sort of a terrible excuse though, because Simmons has been playing behind Embiid for the last 3 years and he has been an All-Star (and All-NBA one of them) each of those seasons.


Simmons has been on the all-star team as a forward and a guard.
Lets see who he has to beat out these past 3 years on the West roster to see if he really had a chance.

2021.
Curry, Doncic, James, Leonard, Jokic
Lillard, Mitchell, Davis, George, CP3, Zion, AD, Gobert
Booker replaced Davis

That leaves off Ingram, JA, DDR. For the sake of argument lets say Simmons > All of those.
Who exactly is Simmons replacing on the West in 2021?
Zion? Gobert? Booker?
Doubtful considering Booker was left off the squad and Gobert was in.

2020
Doncic, Har_en, James, Leonard, Davis
Lillard, Mitchell, Gobert, Ingram, Westbrick, CP3, Jokic.

No Booker, Lou Williams(Had a great year), Ja, DDR.
Who is Simmons replacing? that made the team?

2019
James, KD, George, Curry, Har_en
Jokic, Davis, Aldridge, Lillard, KAT, Thompson, Westbrick.

Whos he replacing?
I'm not trying to be a hater. But it's a real question if Simmons even makes the game in the West.
This is because for everything Simmons is, he is still a flawed player. Very similar to CJ. They're just opposites on both ends of the court.

I wonder if there was an all-offensive team. If CJ would make it? Very similar to how Simmons makes all-defensive.
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Jun 22 2021 07:02pm
I think Simmons either goes to Cleveland or Minnesota
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Jun 22 2021 07:04pm
Quote (SSBBWGiantessLover @ Jun 22 2021 10:02pm)
I think Simmons either goes to Cleveland or Minnesota


Wolves would be a good target tbh, but I dont think the sixers would want russel back
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