Portland gave up two firsts for Roco. They're not trading him with CJ. for Simmons.

Players Portland won't include for Simmons with CJ.
Roco, Little, Simons and probably Collins.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Jun 22 2021 09:19pm

Sounds good, you ride it out w Simmons.

Doesn't Portland actively want to trade CJ right now? That's the inclination I get from reading topics about the team

CJ is 5 years older and playing out of position because of playing next to Lillard, isn't he more naturally a 1 than a 2?

IDK seems like a good opportunity for Portland to swing for the fences, it could blow up in their face but Simmons does have a lot of good skills for playoff basketball

There are reports coming out of Portland's FO that CJ's been told he's not getting traded.
Yes I do believe they're shopping everyone but Lillard.
But they're not giving up CJ + ROCO. Who the latter just last offseason they paid for in the form of 2 first rounders. For Ben Simmons.
It's not a swing for the fences it's an overpay.

Especially the rumor mill suggeesting that many FO believe CJ for Simmons straight swap is equal value for both players.

Which is sad, because just two months ago the Sixers would have never considered a straight up Simmons for CJ trade. Hell, i don't even know if they still would now (although it would make sense fit wise for them). Simmons is over 5 years younger, far more accomplished, and hasn't hit the standard NBA prime years yet. Regardless of how bad he was in the second round of the playoffs, NBA front offices will still salivate at his future outlook due to his size/athleticism and skill set and believe his mental block can be fixed (which to be fair it probably can at some point).

Trading him at his lowest point sounds simple enough to get rid of the issue but it's not absolutely necessary. They can hang on to him and make the move when the time is right, which i think is what they will do. Let him go into next season and go back to knocking down FT's at a higher rate, play at an All-Star level, etc. Either that, or Morey will wait until the right offer comes through this off-season but if teams try to underpay in a trade you can bet they'll hang on to him for a bit.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jun 23 2021 08:02am

This isn’t a low point tho. This is just who he is Unless he learns to shoot and makes an effort to do so in games.

Shooting jumpers isn't even what we're asking of him. Would it be nice? Absolutely, but shooting jumpers or threes isn't even what we expected of him lol. He could never be a jump shooter and still be an All-Star and All-NBA player as he has proven, but to see his production drop off and his aggressiveness disappear was the issue we had.

It's hitting free throws (he's a 62% FT shooter in the regular season and dropped to 34.2% in the playoffs) and simply being aggressive as a scorer. Just look to drive, dunk, attack the rim like we know he can do. He simply stopped even trying to do that in this series, he was hiding from the ball basically probably because he couldn't hit FT's to save his life at that point. The free throws has to be mental, i have no idea how you fall off that much.

The process failed

The process of the process didn’t fail

The execution of “the process” failed, due to the organizations ineptitude of decision making and player development.

This is why it failed. They missed on their draft picks and couldNt develop anyone. Then they were unable to make a decision on Ben Simmons when his value was high, but it was clear that him and Embiid don’t work well together. So they held onto him for to long when they could have gotten a haul for him in 2019



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