d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Sports Coliseum > Basketball > Ad>giannis
Prev123457Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 51,728
Joined: Dec 8 2008
Gold: 2,250.00
Sep 21 2020 08:05pm
Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 06:48pm)
Didn’t AD have Cousins, Jrue, Mirotic and only get 5 playoff wins in 7 years? Just wondering if that’s correct or not


Solid argument, Cousins who played less than a full season on the team and not a minute of playoffs and then Mirotic who isn't anything special and played less than a full season on the team. Jrue is great but if this is all they had to work with over the course of 7 years, how did they win a playoff series in the first place lmao. Post is as shit as the Pelicans management was.



Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 06:52pm)
Shut the fuck up man. The Lakers have practically 0 homegrown talent on their team and you’re acting like they deserve to be here


No one cares, they built the team and the players earned the position they're in, if you're cool with trying to be strictly homegrown talent then enjoy your 2nd round exits and watching your generational talent join a franchise that actually knows how to win.
Member
Posts: 21,569
Joined: May 22 2014
Gold: 0.00
Sep 21 2020 08:08pm
This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken.

Quote (Trust100Percent @ Sep 21 2020 09:05pm)
Solid argument, Cousins who played less than a full season on the team and not a minute of playoffs and then Mirotic who isn't anything special and played less than a full season on the team. Jrue is great but if this is all they had to work with over the course of 7 years, how did they win a playoff series in the first place lmao. Post is as shit as the Pelicans management was.





No one cares, they built the team and the players earned the position they're in, if you're cool with trying to be strictly homegrown talent then enjoy your 2nd round exits and watching your generational talent join a franchise that actually knows how to win.



Yes the whole league should just bend the knee to the Lakers and the Celtics. You’d love that wouldn’t you, just condense the league to 4 teams then and enjoy it fucking faggot
Member
Posts: 51,728
Joined: Dec 8 2008
Gold: 2,250.00
Sep 21 2020 08:12pm
Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 07:08pm)
Yes the whole league should just bend the knee to the Lakers and the Celtics. You’d love that wouldn’t you, just condense the league to 4 teams then and enjoy it fucking faggot


Yeah that's what I said. How about teams that take the risks and make the effort to build championship rosters with smart decisions get rewarded by players actually wanting to play there and the teams that are happy to be mediocre trash and make poor choices continue to stay mediocre trash.
Member
Posts: 21,569
Joined: May 22 2014
Gold: 0.00
Sep 21 2020 08:18pm
Quote (Trust100Percent @ Sep 21 2020 09:12pm)
Yeah that's what I said. How about teams that take the risks and make the effort to build championship rosters with smart decisions get rewarded by players actually wanting to play there and the teams that are happy to be mediocre trash and make poor choices continue to stay mediocre trash.



It’s disgusting how you are really this biased to think the Lakers “made more smart decisions” to be in this position. Two superstars forced their way there and that’s literally the team plus a bunch of ring chasing vets.
Member
Posts: 51,728
Joined: Dec 8 2008
Gold: 2,250.00
Sep 21 2020 08:38pm
Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 07:18pm)
It’s disgusting how you are really this biased to think the Lakers “made more smart decisions” to be in this position. Two superstars forced their way there and that’s literally the team plus a bunch of ring chasing vets.


They took a huge risk trading away all the homegrown talent for a superstar player with known injury concerns setting up the best duo in the NBA. Then filled in the gaps with the right players, maintaining a couple key contributors from the old team and signing the right coach who's defensive strategies and lineups have been absolutely dominant in these playoffs, imagine getting shit on by a lineup of Kuzma/Morris/Rondo/Caruso on any other team. You used Boston as another example, they made great draft decisions drafting Tatum and Brown as the foundation to their team, big trades that benefited them greatly and also hurt the other team in the trade significantly, Brooklyn/Philly etc. They avoided making the mistake of signing Isaiah Thomas to a huge contract and instead went for Kyrie which eventually opened the door to grabbing Kemba. Hayward contract kinda backfired due to a freak injury but they made enough great decisions to have them in the conference finals.

What has Milwaukee done? They drafted Giannis and Middleton which is great, traded for Bledsoe which isn't working out, let Brogdon walk in free agency, overpaid for Middleton, Brook Lopez is a great piece but after that they're pretty underwhelming. It's almost like the two teams that are in the conference finals made better decisions than the team that is a 2nd round exit.

Edit: oh nvm they didn't even draft Middleton lmao, he developed there tho so that's close enough.

This post was edited by Trust100Percent on Sep 21 2020 08:49pm
Member
Posts: 40,899
Joined: Jan 13 2009
Gold: 0.81
Sep 21 2020 08:56pm
Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 06:48pm)
Didn’t AD have Cousins, Jrue, Mirotic and only get 5 playoff wins in 7 years? Just wondering if that’s correct or not


Giannis 2mvps
0 finals appearance
Yikes
Member
Posts: 21,569
Joined: May 22 2014
Gold: 0.00
Sep 21 2020 09:48pm
Quote (Trust100Percent @ Sep 21 2020 09:38pm)
They took a huge risk trading away all the homegrown talent for a superstar player with known injury concerns setting up the best duo in the NBA. Then filled in the gaps with the right players, maintaining a couple key contributors from the old team and signing the right coach who's defensive strategies and lineups have been absolutely dominant in these playoffs, imagine getting shit on by a lineup of Kuzma/Morris/Rondo/Caruso on any other team. You used Boston as another example, they made great draft decisions drafting Tatum and Brown as the foundation to their team, big trades that benefited them greatly and also hurt the other team in the trade significantly, Brooklyn/Philly etc. They avoided making the mistake of signing Isaiah Thomas to a huge contract and instead went for Kyrie which eventually opened the door to grabbing Kemba. Hayward contract kinda backfired due to a freak injury but they made enough great decisions to have them in the conference finals.

What has Milwaukee done? They drafted Giannis and Middleton which is great, traded for Bledsoe which isn't working out, let Brogdon walk in free agency, overpaid for Middleton, Brook Lopez is a great piece but after that they're pretty underwhelming. It's almost like the two teams that are in the conference finals made better decisions than the team that is a 2nd round exit.

Edit: oh nvm they didn't even draft Middleton lmao, he developed there tho so that's close enough.



“All the homegrown talent” it was Ball, Hart, and Ingram. Most non-Lakers homers thought that the Pelicans got robbed, because the Lakers had the trading leverage since AD forced his way there. Great decision making by the Lakers to tamper with other stars. Then to add insult to injury you’re literally listing all ring chasers who only came to LA because of the collusion and tampering of LeBron/AD. Their success couldn’t be any more manufactured, God you’re a delusional person.

Brogdon meanwhile isn’t a risk to resign? Are you even aware of his degenerative foot injury and the games he’s missed? He’d be an iron man like AD too if he got hooked up with LeBrons HGH

Brogdon didn’t walk either, he was traded

This post was edited by Giannis on Sep 21 2020 09:48pm
Member
Posts: 150,073
Joined: Apr 19 2005
Gold: 290.11
Sep 21 2020 09:53pm
Quote (Yawn @ Sep 21 2020 08:20pm)
AD is literally better at everything except getting to the rim. LOL notmymvp


Well except passing, and rebounding, and ball handling.

All of which Giannis is better
Member
Posts: 51,728
Joined: Dec 8 2008
Gold: 2,250.00
Sep 21 2020 10:17pm
Quote (Giannis @ Sep 21 2020 08:48pm)
“All the homegrown talent” it was Ball, Hart, and Ingram. Most non-Lakers homers thought that the Pelicans got robbed, because the Lakers had the trading leverage since AD forced his way there. Great decision making by the Lakers to tamper with other stars. Then to add insult to injury you’re literally listing all ring chasers who only came to LA because of the collusion and tampering of LeBron/AD. Their success couldn’t be any more manufactured, God you’re a delusional person.

Brogdon meanwhile isn’t a risk to resign? Are you even aware of his degenerative foot injury and the games he’s missed? He’d be an iron man like AD too if he got hooked up with LeBrons HGH

Brogdon didn’t walk either, he was traded


Another case of a franchise's failure to make the right decisions to build a contending team around their superstar. The Pelicans only attempt to make anything of it was the Cousins trade and unfortunately he tore his Achilles but that team wasn't winning anything anyway, no wonder AD wanted out after all those years of management failure. The Pelicans got a miracle of the #1 pick to set them back on the right track but they have no one but themselves to blame for AD wanting out. Cry tampering all you want that shit is widespread, it's wrong but GL preventing that. Again though, why did AD want to come to the Lakers and not the Clippers? Decades of better decisions that led to success and championships while the Clippers are still cursed, perks of a history of success. Not sure what you're crying about ring chasers for, the fuck you think the teams and players are trying to do?

The issue of Brogdon is that the Bucks decisions to overpay Bledsoe and Middleton essentially forced them to trade away Brogdon and they had no way to replace the talent they lost thus their team being a repeat of last year. If Giannis decides he wants to be traded or just walks away, Bucks have no one to blame but themselves, just like the Pelicans do regarding AD. Have fun paying Middleton and Bledsoe like $50M per year through 2023, foundation for a 1st round exit for years to come.

This post was edited by Trust100Percent on Sep 21 2020 10:18pm
Member
Posts: 39,303
Joined: Mar 13 2006
Gold: 0.71
Sep 21 2020 10:21pm
5 playoffs wins before LA
Now riding with Lebron

Slow down lmao
Go Back To Basketball Topic List
Prev123457Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll