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Aug 29 2023 12:16pm
Quote (Flameyes @ Aug 29 2023 01:11pm)
???

They have made some of the worst decisions in the league lmao

Fultz
Okafor
Simmons
Letting jimmy walk
Signing Harris to a massive deal
Going through shitty coaches like candy


trading Bridges
not drafting Tatum
signing Al Horford to a massive contract then taking a poison pill deal to get rid of him, only for Al Horford to play insane ball for the Celtics immediately afterwards
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Aug 29 2023 05:58pm
Quote (Flameyes @ Aug 29 2023 01:11pm)
???

They have made some of the worst decisions in the league lmao

Fultz
Okafor
Simmons
Letting jimmy walk
Signing Harris to a massive deal
Going through shitty coaches like candy


Simmons was a bad decision???????? Do explain please how taking him #1, which was a NO brainer, was a bad decision lmao.

Also, Jimmy walked on his own. They didn't "let" him do anything. Luckily they were able to do a s&t with Miami to get some value in return.

And signing Harris was really something they had no choice. That was his value at the time to retain him, and they had just traded for him so letting him walk for nothing would have been a major L. Hindsight is 20/20 though to complain about that contract. They wanted to retain both him and Butler, which they could have done had Jimmy not wanted to leave (because of Simmons).



And Fultz, despite turning out to be a bust for them, was a no brainer decision as well. He was an elite guard prospect who filled the exact need for them. How he developed was a different story, but taking him in the draft isn't really something they can be faulted for...

Quote (MildSambal @ Aug 29 2023 01:16pm)
trading Bridges
not drafting Tatum
signing Al Horford to a massive contract then taking a poison pill deal to get rid of him, only for Al Horford to play insane ball for the Celtics immediately afterwards


"Not drafting Tatum" LOL nobody expected them to take Tatum. They needed a guard and Fultz fit the exact need. Fultz was at the top of almost every teams board too. Once again...hindsight 20/20, but I hate when people act like Fultz was not the right pick at the time. He was the perfect player for them at the time to pair in the backcourt with Simmons at the time.

Also, how did they take a "poison pill" to get rid of Horford? That was Moreys first job when he came to Philly and did a damn good job moving on from Horford and even brought in Danny Green in return who was a valuable 3&d guy for the team for a while.



Anyways....yeah, we can talk about some of the piss poor player development that unfolded, or bone headed moves Colangelo made with the assets he inherited. But we can also talk about the great moves, especially as of late, that Morey has made. Such as drafted Tyrese Maxey late in the first round, trading a late first round pick for Melton, or developing Paul Reed into a very serviceable young big man. There's a reason this team has been so damn good in recent years, despite their shortcomings in the second round.

This post was edited by Sixers on Aug 29 2023 06:06pm
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Aug 29 2023 06:29pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 29 2023 04:58pm)
Simmons was a bad decision???????? Do explain please how taking him #1, which was a NO brainer, was a bad decision lmao.

Also, Jimmy walked on his own. They didn't "let" him do anything. Luckily they were able to do a s&t with Miami to get some value in return.

And signing Harris was really something they had no choice. That was his value at the time to retain him, and they had just traded for him so letting him walk for nothing would have been a major L. Hindsight is 20/20 though to complain about that contract. They wanted to retain both him and Butler, which they could have done had Jimmy not wanted to leave (because of Simmons).



And Fultz, despite turning out to be a bust for them, was a no brainer decision as well. He was an elite guard prospect who filled the exact need for them. How he developed was a different story, but taking him in the draft isn't really something they can be faulted for...



"Not drafting Tatum" LOL nobody expected them to take Tatum. They needed a guard and Fultz fit the exact need. Fultz was at the top of almost every teams board too. Once again...hindsight 20/20, but I hate when people act like Fultz was not the right pick at the time. He was the perfect player for them at the time to pair in the backcourt with Simmons at the time.

Also, how did they take a "poison pill" to get rid of Horford? That was Moreys first job when he came to Philly and did a damn good job moving on from Horford and even brought in Danny Green in return who was a valuable 3&d guy for the team for a while.



Anyways....yeah, we can talk about some of the piss poor player development that unfolded, or bone headed moves Colangelo made with the assets he inherited. But we can also talk about the great moves, especially as of late, that Morey has made. Such as drafted Tyrese Maxey late in the first round, trading a late first round pick for Melton, or developing Paul Reed into a very serviceable young big man. There's a reason this team has been so damn good in recent years, despite their shortcomings in the second round.


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Aug 29 2023 06:34pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 29 2023 06:58pm)
Simmons was a bad decision???????? Do explain please how taking him #1, which was a NO brainer, was a bad decision lmao.

Also, Jimmy walked on his own. They didn't "let" him do anything. Luckily they were able to do a s&t with Miami to get some value in return.

And signing Harris was really something they had no choice. That was his value at the time to retain him, and they had just traded for him so letting him walk for nothing would have been a major L. Hindsight is 20/20 though to complain about that contract. They wanted to retain both him and Butler, which they could have done had Jimmy not wanted to leave (because of Simmons).



And Fultz, despite turning out to be a bust for them, was a no brainer decision as well. He was an elite guard prospect who filled the exact need for them. How he developed was a different story, but taking him in the draft isn't really something they can be faulted for...



"Not drafting Tatum" LOL nobody expected them to take Tatum. They needed a guard and Fultz fit the exact need. Fultz was at the top of almost every teams board too. Once again...hindsight 20/20, but I hate when people act like Fultz was not the right pick at the time. He was the perfect player for them at the time to pair in the backcourt with Simmons at the time.

Also, how did they take a "poison pill" to get rid of Horford? That was Moreys first job when he came to Philly and did a damn good job moving on from Horford and even brought in Danny Green in return who was a valuable 3&d guy for the team for a while.



Anyways....yeah, we can talk about some of the piss poor player development that unfolded, or bone headed moves Colangelo made with the assets he inherited. But we can also talk about the great moves, especially as of late, that Morey has made. Such as drafted Tyrese Maxey late in the first round, trading a late first round pick for Melton, or developing Paul Reed into a very serviceable young big man. There's a reason this team has been so damn good in recent years, despite their shortcomings in the second round.


yea and believe it or not other teams also make good moves too. dude said the 76ers have made the SECOND BEST decisions over a long stretch... there is significant evidence to counter that statement based on team successes
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Aug 29 2023 07:51pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Aug 29 2023 07:34pm)
yea and believe it or not other teams also make good moves too. dude said the 76ers have made the SECOND BEST decisions over a long stretch... there is significant evidence to counter that statement based on team successes


Not really. Making good moves doesn't guarantee success.

Coaching and player development take over from there.


I mean im not saying I agree with second best, but I also think some of you guys overstate the "bad decisions" as if they're the fucking Knicks lol
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Aug 29 2023 10:30pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 29 2023 06:51pm)
Not really. Making good moves doesn't guarantee success.

Coaching and player development take over from there.


I mean im not saying I agree with second best, but I also think some of you guys overstate the "bad decisions" as if they're the fucking Knicks lol


It's only a good move if there's some form of success that arises from it lol.
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Aug 29 2023 11:05pm
Quote (Vilify @ Aug 29 2023 11:30pm)
It's only a good move if there's some form of success that arises from it lol.


I guess. Well, if the NBA didn't force Hinkie out of office and force Colangelo in office to fuck everything up things could be different.

Good thing we have the Phillies and Eagles to keep us happy.
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Aug 29 2023 11:58pm
Quote (Sixers @ Aug 29 2023 10:05pm)
I guess. Well, if the NBA didn't force Hinkie out of office and force Colangelo in office to fuck everything up things could be different.

Good thing we have the Phillies and Eagles to keep us happy.


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Quote (Sixers @ Aug 29 2023 07:58pm)
Simmons was a bad decision???????? Do explain please how taking him #1, which was a NO brainer, was a bad decision lmao.

Also, Jimmy walked on his own. They didn't "let" him do anything. Luckily they were able to do a s&t with Miami to get some value in return.

And signing Harris was really something they had no choice. That was his value at the time to retain him, and they had just traded for him so letting him walk for nothing would have been a major L. Hindsight is 20/20 though to complain about that contract. They wanted to retain both him and Butler, which they could have done had Jimmy not wanted to leave (because of Simmons).



And Fultz, despite turning out to be a bust for them, was a no brainer decision as well. He was an elite guard prospect who filled the exact need for them. How he developed was a different story, but taking him in the draft isn't really something they can be faulted for...



"Not drafting Tatum" LOL nobody expected them to take Tatum. They needed a guard and Fultz fit the exact need. Fultz was at the top of almost every teams board too. Once again...hindsight 20/20, but I hate when people act like Fultz was not the right pick at the time. He was the perfect player for them at the time to pair in the backcourt with Simmons at the time.

Also, how did they take a "poison pill" to get rid of Horford? That was Moreys first job when he came to Philly and did a damn good job moving on from Horford and even brought in Danny Green in return who was a valuable 3&d guy for the team for a while.



Anyways....yeah, we can talk about some of the piss poor player development that unfolded, or bone headed moves Colangelo made with the assets he inherited. But we can also talk about the great moves, especially as of late, that Morey has made. Such as drafted Tyrese Maxey late in the first round, trading a late first round pick for Melton, or developing Paul Reed into a very serviceable young big man. There's a reason this team has been so damn good in recent years, despite their shortcomings in the second round.


When you have a young star who needs spacing around him, drafting a pg who everyone knew was an abysmal shooter and had very little chance of improving in that area is not what I would consider a good decision. His defensive strengths were also not as needed when embiid is one of the premier rim protectors in the league

Maybe they were trying to hedge their bets in case embiid’s injury problems halted his career but even in that case there was never any point in time where Ben Simmons looked like a franchise player. BI, JB, hield, and Murray were all top 10 picks in that draft and the fit with any of them would have been leagues better
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