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Jul 26 2023 02:15pm
Quote (Proint @ Jul 26 2023 03:58pm)
Which vax did you take


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Jul 26 2023 03:04pm
Quote (Lakeshow906 @ Jul 26 2023 02:50pm)
It's a gigantic stretch to act like the cardiac arrests happening in sports is normal. It's not. There no evidence either that it effects are temporary, that won't be known for years.


Even if you think vaccines cause dyslexia or addictive personality or a slew of other random causal links, there is an echo chamber to confirm your bias if you want to find it. Thanks to political agendas and monetization, there will always be hacks who author bogus articles, books, peer reviewed studies, etc to pander to their target audience.

Cardiac arrests happening in sports could be from so many different factors that you frankly sound like a anti vax fanatic.
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u a nurse?


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Quote (Lakeshow906 @ 26 Jul 2023 18:48)
It's false that people know the mRNA vaccines effects are temporary. They've said they probably won't know for 5-10 years the effects.

Don't you question why it's happening to more athletes since the vaccine came out? And it's not insane to ask questions, that's literally science. LeBron was vaxxed and it's assumed his son was.


have a scientific source to support that claim? more specifically, a source that suggests the real danger is the vaccine and not covid itself. just to be clear, anecdotal evidence pushed by anti-vaxx circles is not statistical proof.

regarding instances of young athletes suffering from cardiac arrest in general: it's an issue that clearly predates covid:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.108.804617
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/21/1196
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Jul 26 2023 04:32pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Jul 26 2023 05:04pm)
Even if you think vaccines cause dyslexia or addictive personality or a slew of other random causal links, there is an echo chamber to confirm your bias if you want to find it. Thanks to political agendas and monetization, there will always be hacks who author bogus articles, books, peer reviewed studies, etc to pander to their target audience.

Cardiac arrests happening in sports could be from so many different factors that you frankly sound like a anti vax fanatic.


Political agendas and monetization are the reason I think it was forced on people. You know the people who are pushing the vax the hardest and producing it are the people in the WEF (World Economic Forum). One of their main talking point there is reducing pollution and they openly talk about needing to reduce the population of the Earth to do so. They made Billions of dollars selling their vaccines. They don't care about us or our health they want us sick so they can sell their drugs to us. They didn't tell us to do things to strength your immune system like eating healthy meals, taking vitamins, getting sleep, exercise, reducing stress, etc. Covid was a huge shift in wealth, they made all the mom and pop shops close but allowed all the big industries to stay open.


Can you offer and evidence that it didn't come from the vaccine? I don't recall any of these young athletes having cardiac arrests in the past. Can you name any?

I'm not anti vax, I just believe it should not be forced on people. If people want to take vaccines that's their choice if that's what they think is best for them. I didn't feel the covid vaccine was for me. It felt rushed, was a newer technology that didn't seem to have lots of data (mRNA) and definitely didn't trust the people who were producing it. Along with being in my 20s and not having any prior conditions like obesity, diabetes, etc I didn't feel I needed.




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Jul 26 2023 04:33pm
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have a scientific source to support that claim? more specifically, a source that suggests the real danger is the vaccine and not covid itself. just to be clear, anecdotal evidence pushed by anti-vaxx circles is not statistical proof.

regarding instances of young athletes suffering from cardiac arrest in general: it's an issue that clearly predates covid:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.108.804617
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/21/1196




The Office for National Statistics is the UK’s largest independent producer of official statistics and the recognized national statistical institute of the UK. it's responsible for collecting and publishing statistics related to the economy, population and society at all levels.
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Jul 26 2023 04:38pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 26 2023 05:54pm)
have a scientific source to support that claim? more specifically, a source that suggests the real danger is the vaccine and not covid itself. just to be clear, anecdotal evidence pushed by anti-vaxx circles is not statistical proof.

regarding instances of young athletes suffering from cardiac arrest in general: it's an issue that clearly predates covid:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.108.804617
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/21/1196


It's up to your personal decision if you want to trust the source or not. There appears to clearly be an uptick in cardiac issues and blood clots amongst people since the vaccine came out. Whether it's from that or not, I don't think there is a way right now to prove either side right or wrong. But I have my own opinion of what is going on.

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/2000-athletes-had-fatal-heart-attacks-since-jab-rollout-media-blackout/
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Jul 26 2023 05:13pm
Quote (Vtrix @ Jul 26 2023 02:22pm)
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he's not?
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https://i.imgur.com/H5GX4uh.png

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oh that one. classic case of misleading / misinterpreted statistic. some context:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/covid19vaccinationandmortalityinyoungpeopleduringthecoronaviruspandemic/2022-03-22
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Quote (Cbramgar @ Jul 26 2023 07:13pm)
he's not?


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