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Quote (Kimtown @ Oct 30 2017 09:01pm)
I wonder if this is the game where people will start respecting him. Probably not


Already has all my respect
People said he and IT were the same on defense
Im dying watching the difference :rofl:
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Rebounding + paint defense + transition offense

Had none of that last year
Got it all so far :)
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Rebound numbers by Horford last 5

Didn't happen once last year :rofl:
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#1 in defensive rating
SUPER early, but EVERYONE said we regressed on defense because we lost Jae and AB :rofl:
Clearly

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9/13/9/9/13
Rebound numbers by Horford last 5

Didn't happen once last year :rofl:
Feelsgood

#1 in defensive rating
SUPER early, but EVERYONE said we regressed on defense because we lost Jae and AB :rofl:
Clearly


Who did you guys get for bradley again?
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Oct 31 2017 08:23am
Quote (Trig @ Oct 31 2017 10:20am)
Who did you guys get for bradley again?


Marcus Morris

Yet to play a game
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Having watched a few celtics games this year, maybe Kyrie was never the problem when it came to the absolute dearth of ball movement. He looks like a very willing passer and a capable playmaker under Stevens, and that's with notably less help than he had in Cleveland.
Seems like the problem has been, and still is, the complete lack of an offense. I do remember seeing some chatter about how Lue would discourage Kyrie from being a playmaker and try to convince him to iso more. I'm not blaming Lue specifically, but the team culture, which, admittedly, is something the coach has a say in.
I'm more and more inclined to believe Kyrie was literally driven out by the culture of coasting, not caring, not giving 100% effort, etc., rather than Kyrie just straight up having beef with LeBron.

Not a single player who has come to the Cavs has shown any signs of development, whether that's young players (Liggins, Felder, etc.) or others like Shump, JR, TT etc. If anything, several have regressed. And this is a team that hasn't changed ALL that much. Yes, there's a lotta new faces, but there's a LOT of continuity too. LBJ, JR, Love, TT, Frye, Shump, etc.
In comparison, this completely revamped Boston team, with SEVERAL very young players (Tatum, Brown, Rozier) and several completely new faces (Kyrie, Baynes, Morris, etc.) looks like a well-organized, cohesive team, DESPITE losing 4 of 5 starters from last season, losing their BEST player to an absolute freak injury in the first 6 minutes of their season. And everyone's game seems to be developing, on both ends of the floor.
It comes down to more than just the coach, but the fact remains that one team appears to be taking strides in the right direction despite a lot of friction and a freak injury, while another team looks like they're still hungover from a summer of clubbing and would rather do anything than play basketball.

I honestly didn't believe Kyrie had it in him. I strongly believed he was going to regret his decision very much, and it was gonna backfire on him. Especially with Hayward out, I expected the Celtics to struggle to break the top 4 in the East, but clearly they're faves for the top seed, once again. Do they threaten the Cavs in the Playoffs? I SINCERELY doubt it. Could they seriously push the Cavs with another year under their belt and Hayward back and healthy? Very likely.


https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/79sh29/thoughts_on_kyrie_to_boston/
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Marcus Morris

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hmm.. im surprised they made that trade. I feel like AB was pat bev, but then again, Houston traded him too..
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hmm.. im surprised they made that trade. I feel like AB was pat bev, but then again, Houston traded him too..

they only made the trade cuze AB about to get paid. quite sure that is the main reason.

better get sth. before losing him for nothing.
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Marcus Morris

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So excited for when he suits up

One of the best mid range jumpers in the game + very solid defender against multiple positions
Put up solid numbers in Detroit in a tough environment. He was usually the go to guy with the shot clock winding down. Played mainly as an iso scorer(team has 0 spacing)which is not at all the strong part of his game
Played mainly at the 3, but hes going to get a lot of minutes at the 4 and sometimes the 5 under Stevens I think
Our system should make things quite easy for him

+ the depth hell bring
Irving/Brown/Tatum/Morris/Horford
Rozier/Smart/Semi/Theis/Baynes

Should be the rotation
That or Tatum on the bench for more of a scoring punch

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Kyrie has been everything and more!!!

Quote (darki99 @ Oct 31 2017 10:46am)
they only made the trade cuze AB about to get paid. quite sure that is the main reason.

better get sth. before losing him for nothing.


It's not only that. His rebounding at 6 a game is false.
We wanted to increase the size of our team
Kyrie 6'3 > IT 5'9
Jaylen 6'7 > AB 6'2
Morris 6'9 > Jae 6'6
Tatum 6'8
Baynes>Amir
Even Hayward 6'8

It was all about being able to box out, protect the paint and rebound!!!!!
Omg is it making a difference

This post was edited by ZxFamily-GuyxZ on Oct 31 2017 08:50am
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So excited for when he suits up

One of the best mid range jumpers in the game + very solid defender against multiple positions
Put up solid numbers in Detroit in a tough environment. He was usually the go to guy with the shot clock winding down. Played mainly as an iso scorer(team has 0 spacing)which is not at all the strong part of his game
Played mainly at the 3, but hes going to get a lot of minutes at the 4 and sometimes the 5 under Stevens I think
Our system should make things quite easy for him

+ the depth hell bring
Irving/Brown/Tatum/Morris/Horford
Rozier/Smart/Semi/Theis/Baynes

Should be the rotation
That or Tatum on the bench for more of a scoring punch



Kyrie has been everything and more!!!



It's not only that. His rebounding at 6 a game is false.
We wanted to increase the size of our team
Kyrie 6'3 > IT 5'9
Jaylen 6'7 > AB 6'2
Morris 6'9 > Jae 6'6
Tatum 6'8
Baynes>Amir
Even Hayward 6'8

It was all about being able to box out, protect the paint and rebound!!!!!
Omg is it making a difference


Agree love AB, wanted to keep him, but he was gonna get paid. Plus Irving and Bradley is a very small back court. Morris is also an great LBJ defender, held him to his lowest FG% last year, even better Kawhi, Durant, or any other LBJ stopper.

Without losing Bradley, we couldn't think of getting Hayward, and losing Smart instead of AB might've been a big problem, now that we can see Irving can do what IT can do... Play solid offense, play make, while being a better defender, not getting destroyed on every play.

I think Brad Stevens is trying to go for a more heavy switch offense and defense.

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