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Mar 30 2015 10:11pm
"ya the cool gl 4 minutes later kills him imo. this is bullshit, and is a welch , even though he didnt type cd for fucks sake." -SheriffCool January 10th 2012

Yep saying cool and wishing someone goodluck on an agreed upon bet and then not paying should be a welch.
You're totally right sheriff.

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Your suggestion is total shit. You are taking the current system which is totally cut and dry and trying to make it way more subjective than what is currently in place. What if someone says my xxx vs your xxx for up to 500 fg. And the response is I only have 300 fg do you want that? And then ops response is just simple "moar". Did he confirm the bet or is he looking for more than 300? Does he not want a bet that small or does he want that bet and another bet?


No. He asked him a question regarding if something was enough and the response was more. The situation is unclear, not a clear agreed deal and confirmation.
He should ask him to clarify.

The fact that sometimes there will be tough calls if you strain your mind to find the most ridiculous of scenarios is not a good enough reason to keep stupid rules.
Simplicity for list runners is not always what is best.

Person 1:"Hey ill bet 200fg vs 200fg my Duke vs your Gonzaga"
Person 2: "I'll take that bet"
Person 1: "Ok. Thanks gl" or "cool gl"

Not a bet? get the fuck out of here.

Could you imagine if our court system was set up like that? Oh he didn't say the magic word, Not Guilty!
No they fucking find people guilty of scams even if no magic word was said.
They also go off of reasonable doubt. Not "oh its easier for me if we only count contracts that have a single magic word in them to make sure they were serious in black and white terms"

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Should really read the betting rules before you even start betting IMO. Calling the list runner lazy is rather humorous to me seeing how much shit he puts up with to help us bet fake currency. Rules are the rules dont like them then dont bet. Go play Diablo and follow the 2/3 rule (if they still do that)

Just my two cents though


And how the fuck is someone supposed to know there are special unofficial "betting rules" posted hundreds of days ago that are very very very strange?
"they should look at the rules' and "rules are rules" are not legitimate arguments for having stupid rules.

Even if they had magic mind reading powers to know there are dumb rules they need to dig up, In atleast two of the instances the rules were posted by people who are locked.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 30 2015 10:36pm
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Mar 30 2015 10:31pm
I can't keep reading and responding to these.

This kids just never gonna get it.

If you don't like it, go back to the video game forums and don't bet on sports.
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Mar 30 2015 10:35pm
The potential rule could stipulate it has to be reasonably clear and unambiguous, and could recommend using "confirmed" instead of a 100% requirement.
"Ok" is a confirmation. "cool gl" is a confirmation too.

Im open to different wordings and suggestions to how we could make it better too, to minimize problems that could arise that you guys are worried about.
Requiring a magic word is not the only way to do it.

What we have here is a bunch of people who have been doing something a certain way for years and are resistant to change and are getting pissy about it.

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I can't keep reading and responding to these.

This kids just never gonna get it.

If you don't like it, go back to the video game forums and don't bet on sports.


Another ignorant "if you dont like it leave" non-argument.
GJ

You do realize that could be used in "defense" of any rule right? no matter how ridiculous.

Is it not possible to seek to improve the rules while remaining here?

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 30 2015 11:00pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 30 2015 09:35pm)
The potential rule could stipulate it has to be reasonably clear and unambiguous, and could recommend using "confirmed" instead of a 100% requirement.
"Ok" is a confirmation. "cool gl" is a confirmation too.

Im open to different wordings and suggestions to how we could make it better too, to minimize problems that could arise that you guys are worried about.
Requiring a magic word is not the only way to do it.

What we have here is a bunch of people who have been doing something a certain way for years and are resistant to change and are getting pissy about it.



Another ignorant "if you dont like it leave" non-argument.
GJ

You do realize that could be used in "defense" of any rule right? no matter how ridiculous.

Is it not possible to seek to improve the rules while remaining here?



Or we could not change the entire system and just leave it how it is because it works perfectly fine. Please show me all the bets where people are getting scammed bcuz they didn't know the rules? The shit works perfectly fine day in and day out.

Edit: how many times do you need this explained to you before you get it through your head? The system must be BLACK AND WHITE, there can be 0 gray area, 0 subjective wording, 0 "obvious meaning of English." That's what the system does, it makes it 100% obviously whether something was a bet or not. There's no arguing about "what he meant." Was the bet confirmed, or not? End of story.

If you chose not to read the rules before betting and get scammed, your own laziness cost you your FG.

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Quote (MVPx @ Mar 31 2015 01:06am)
Or we could not change the entire system and just leave it how it is because it works perfectly fine. Please show me all the bets where people are getting scammed bcuz they didn't know the rules? The shit works perfectly fine day in and day out.

You mean what happened over and over and over with "cool gl" mediators trolling and scamming everyone shenanigans was "perfectly fine"?

You are posting in one now.

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Edit: how many times do you need this explained to you before you get it through your head? The system must be BLACK AND WHITE, there can be 0 gray area, 0 subjective wording, 0 "obvious meaning of English." That's what the system does, it makes it 100% obviously whether something was a bet or not. There's no arguing about "what he meant." Was the bet confirmed, or not? End of story.


You declaring it "MUST BE BLACK AND WHITE" does not mean that it has to be perfectly black and white, nor is a magic word the only way to have it be black and white.
That is your subjective opinion.

When someone says "OK i want the bet" to a bet or "cool gl" when terms are agreed upon, its confirmed. Thats pretty black and white.

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If you chose not to read the rules before betting and get scammed, your own laziness cost you your FG


Did you not read any of my previous posts?
They dont know there are ridiculous rules they have to look up, and victim blaming is not a good excuse to have dumb rules.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 30 2015 11:18pm
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Mar 30 2015 11:17pm
damn this longer than the "a/c" and "op must cd back" thread
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 30 2015 10:13pm)
You mean what happened over and over and over with "cool gl" shenanigans was "perfectly fine"?

You are posting in one now.



You declaring it "MUST BE BLACK AND WHITE" does not mean that it has to be perfectly black and white.
That is your subjective opinion.

When someone says "OK i want the bet" to a bet, its confirmed. Thats pretty black and white.



Did you not read any of my previous posts?
They dont know there are ridiculous rules they have to look up, and victim blaming is not a good excuse to have dumb rules.



Wtf r u talking about, this thread was an obvious troll.. Everyone knew Teabag was joking and wasn't gonna let him take that guys measly 5fg even if he was serious.

No that's not my opinion, it must be black and white. There has to be complete objectiveness so that there's never an argument over whether a bet is official or not.

If you join a new sub forum and you've never bet before you should take 3 minutes and find / read the rules. If you decide not to, once again that is your fault.

Here's what will happen.

"My lakers +5 vs magic for 500"
Random guy posts "I'll take magic -5 for 300"
OP "ok u got 300 glgl"
Guy #2 "will you take my magic -5 for 300 also?"
OP "ok fine 300 more for u too"

After the game guy #2 will be like "wow I never confirmed I was asking if you would take 300 more but u took to long to reply so I forgot about it"

Do you see where if guy #2 posted "I'll take my magic -5 for another 300 if you want, c'd before tipoff" and then OP quotes him and "confirmed" how that is a much much much better system.

How do you not understand this?
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Mar 30 2015 11:21pm
Quote (Knifer @ Mar 30 2015 10:17pm)
damn this longer than the "a/c" and "op must cd back" thread



Dude I'm starting to think he's trolling.

He can't think having this ambiguous system he's pumping is actually better..
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Mar 30 2015 11:23pm
U/f to cd
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Mar 30 2015 11:27pm
Quote (HydroPK @ Mar 30 2015 10:23pm)
U/f to cd



This always ends well :D

Where's brokeceps with my 2k. He should have a multi with a ton of FG by now
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