We need a real floor general, not some selfish bench player who doesn't contribute to anything else except one department.

We need a Kyle Lowry / Chris Paul / Goran Dragic type player.

Simmons was getting a lot better at being the roll man before he got injured in the random various PnR combos that we ran. If we had CP3 shooting behind that shit we'd be elite given that he doesn't turn to shit next season.


This post was edited by Embiid on Sep 19 2020 05:55pm

I mean i agree, but you're talking about trading for an All-Star thats a blockbuster move. Highly unlikely.

Lou is a much smaller, more more realistic move. Doesn't move the needle as much but still would be a big help.

Also, Lou is a solid facilitator. Dude averaged almost 6 dimes a game this season, despite being asked to be a pure scorer basically. Hes not a true PG but he can create for others because of his own ability to draw attention to himself. He's not JJ Redick lol

This post was edited by Sixers on Sep 19 2020 06:14pm

Those assists are because he is a 2 trick pony that can run a pick and roll and is slightly above average at ISO's.

He's not a passing savant like you're making him out to be.

Rumors about a Jrue Holiday to Sixers deal.

That's a player I'd be willing to dump Matisse Thybulle and picks for.

Thybulle + Jrich + picks makes salary work if we can't unload Tobias or Al Horford.


This post was edited by Embiid on Sep 20 2020 07:24am

I just came thinking about that scenario.

Jrue + Simmons the wing and then Embiid just chillin in the paint.

The other team wouldn't evne score a point.

I'd love to trade for Jrue also lol

Now THAT is a trade that would make a big difference

Would love to see Jrue back in Philly. My favorite non-Sixers players in the league. Although I can't say his game would be an ideal fit considering he has never been a very good outside shooter. He would give us similar production as a shooter that JRich gave (but better everywhere else of course).

This post was edited by Sixers on Sep 20 2020 11:27am

JRich as a PG was dog-shit. His play-making ability is non-existent.

Jrue is more of a combo guard than a PG but his playing making is still above average. We need a good ball handler next to Simmons bad. Shake is decent for what he is but he could barely dribble against good defenders as the combo guard next to Simmons.

Shake is a great shooter but has to get stronger, very crafty with his handles but way too finesse and can't handle physical defense because he's 6'6" but built like a high school JV player. I'm sure that's a top priority for him this off-season though. He can play as a 2 guard though off the ball because of his ability to consistently hit 3's at a 40%+ clip.

Jrue has been playing the 2 for years now in New Orleans. Like you said, a combo guard in todays positionless league but he hasn't been the full time PG really as he has been playing next to Rondo and Lonzo the last couple of years. With Simmons though he could definitely share ball handling duties and be comfortable no doubt.

But again, he wouldn't solve the shooting issues. Jrue's game is a lot of attacking and playmaking, but he's average at best as an outside shooter. So there would still be concerns with spacing.

Defensively, we would lose two REALLY good defenders if we gave up Thybulle and JRich. While Jrue is better defensively than both of them, the jump isn't all that big (and Thybulle obviously has DPOY type potential). Richardson is a really good defender, not on Jrue's level but he's been a fringe all-defense caliber player in Miami. The defensive game plan in the playoffs with Embiid just hanging back on every Kemba Walker P&R was poison though, left Richardson on an island every play to get obliterated by screens on his own leaving Kemba open for clean looks every play.

This post was edited by Sixers on Sep 20 2020 11:47am

also, JRich lack of playmaking was a big surprise considering he was pretty good in that area in Miami. He ran PG a LOT in Miami and had a lot of success leading the Heat to the playoffs and a winning record as the #1 option.

It's almost like his true potential wasn't utilized playing in Philly under BB....shocker