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Nov 3 2021 10:21am
Quote (Sixers @ Nov 3 2021 11:17am)
Yeah, the difference is LeBron has proven he can win with various players in different situations.

MJ wasn't that kind of guy. He had that loaded team and they won a bunch in a weak era and that was it, the other 9 years of his career he didn't even make the Finals....


MJ didn't face anywhere near the amount of HOF players in their prime in the Finals that LeBron has faced. Not even close. Jordan played in an expansion era when the leak was WEAK.


LeBron has played with multiple players who could end their careers above Pippen lmao you're such a stan
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Nov 3 2021 10:28am
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LeBron has played with multiple players who could end their careers above Pippen lmao you're such a stan


Uh, who? Who did he play with in their prime that is better all-time than Pippen?

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Uh, who? Who did he play with in their prime that is better all-time than Pippen?


Wade and AD
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Wade and AD


Wade is not better than Pippen all-time lol...

And AD? He could...one day. Definitely doesn't have a better career than Pippen yet though.
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Wade is not better than Pippen all-time lol...

And AD? He could...one day. Definitely doesn't have a better career than Pippen yet though.


Wade has one of the only titles without a second All-Star, puts him above Pippen for a lot of people
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Wade has one of the only titles without a second All-Star, puts him above Pippen for a lot of people


Huh?

Shaq was not only an All-Star that season, he was All-NBA 1st team....
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Nov 3 2021 10:41am
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Wade is not better than Pippen all-time lol...

And AD? He could...one day. Definitely doesn't have a better career than Pippen yet though.



I think I probably take Wade over Pippen all time but that may be recency bias. Prime Wade was top of the top tier
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I think I probably take Wade over Pippen all time but that may be recency bias. Prime Wade was top of the top tier


I mean it's definitely arguable, they're in the same range if someone were to make an all-time players list.

But i could also argue that Wade wasn't in his absolute prime anymore when LeBron joined the Heat. Injuries took their toll on Wade QUICKLY once he hit 30.....and LeBron joined him when he was 31+. He was still great without a doubt, but health wise he was definitely a step behind where he was during his original Championship with Shaq.

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Huh?

Shaq was not only an All-Star that season, he was All-NBA 1st team....


Shaq was 33 at that time and most centers, especially fat and lazy centers tend to decline pretty quick after 30

I stand corrected on the All-Star selection and 1st team All-NBA
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Shaq was 33 at that time and most centers, especially fat and lazy centers tend to decline pretty quick after 30

I stand corrected on the All-Star selection and 1st team All-NBA


I mean he wasn't prime Shaq, we can all agree on that.

But even outside of his prime, he was still great that season. He put up 20/10 a night and was a perfect #2 go-to guy at that point in his career. He declined quickly after that season though.

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