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Jul 30 2021 07:27am
Quote (piatek @ Jul 29 2021 10:04pm)
No, LeBron does, that's why he wants a super team. Therefore failure to do so, when you've stacked the odds in your favour, destroys your legacy in comparison to the GOAT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYe8B--jrbs


There's no such thing as a guarantee as LeBron learned the embarrassing way. Instead greatly increasing the odds in your favour, when you lose with such favourable odds, decreases your legacy.



Don’t think he ever said that, but even with WB they can’t be favored over the Nets or even the Warriors if they can pull off a trade
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Jul 30 2021 09:59am
Quote (piatek @ Jul 29 2021 10:04pm)
No, LeBron does, that's why he wants a super team. Therefore failure to do so, when you've stacked the odds in your favour, destroys your legacy in comparison to the GOAT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYe8B--jrbs


There's no such thing as a guarantee as LeBron learned the embarrassing way. Instead greatly increasing the odds in your favour, when you lose with such favourable odds, decreases your legacy.



You realize Jordan had much better teams relative to the competition level than Lebron has had

When lebron leaves a team, they are in the lottery

When Jordan leaves a team, they go to game 7 of the conference semis

Relative to the rest of theNBA at their respective times, Jordan had better teams than lebron.

The competition in the nba is vastly superior now than it was when Jordan played.

In today’s NBA, Jordan would have 2-3 rings. Not 6. His legacy is bolstered by an era of mediocrity in the NBA in which talent was minimal and evenly distributed across all teams, except concentrated at the bulls because of roster construction. Jordan had 3-4 hall of famers on his teams he won. His competition had 1-2

Jordan has squeezed in an era where all the good players were old and finishing their careers (magic, bird etc) and there was very few Other high caliber talent (Hakeem, late jazz teams) other than a team with 1x, mid level hall of famer (Reggie, tall guy from Knicks, Barkley)

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Quote (Overpriced @ Jul 30 2021 11:59am)
You realize Jordan had much better teams relative to the competition level than Lebron has had

When lebron leaves a team, they are in the lottery

When Jordan leaves a team, they go to game 7 of the conference semis

Relative to the rest of theNBA at their respective times, Jordan had better teams than lebron.

The competition in the nba is vastly superior now than it was when Jordan played.

In today’s NBA, Jordan would have 2-3 rings. Not 6. His legacy is bolstered by an era of mediocrity in the NBA in which talent was minimal and evenly distributed across all teams, except concentrated at the bulls because of roster construction. Jordan had 3-4 hall of famers on his teams he won. His competition had 1-2

Jordan has squeezed in an era where all the good players were old and finishing their careers (magic, bird etc) and there was very few Other high caliber talent (Hakeem, late jazz teams) other than a team with 1x, mid level hall of famer (Reggie, tall guy from Knicks, Barkley)


This guy is spitting straight up FACTS

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Jul 30 2021 10:10am
Quote (Sixers @ Jul 30 2021 11:02am)
This guy is spitting straight up FACTS

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Not to mention that most say the bull should have won game 5 due to a terrible call with 2.1 seconds left made by Hue Hollins, costing the bulls the game, which went to 7 games. Instant replayed showed the call clearly was incorrect. Sending Hubert Davis to the foul line for the win for the Knicks.

You can make a valid argument that the bulls should have at least beat the Knicks, and moved onto the Eastern Conferncr finals. And the Knicks made it to the finals that year.

Jordan is not the best player ever. He was the best player in an era of low competition in the NBA.

He is somewhere around Second or third best. With lebron as #1, Wilt/Kareem/magic/Jordan as #2 (can be debated many ways between those who is #2), 3, 4 and 5 is some combo of those remaining. I would say floor is Jordan 3, ceiling Jordan 2. But for sure not #1

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Jul 30 2021 10:45am
ONLY CASUALS AND FUCKING IDIOTS THAT DONT KNOW BASKETBALL CLAIM ANYONE OTHER THAN LEBRON IS GOAT

Quote (Overpriced @ 30 Jul 2021 12:10)
Not to mention that most say the bull should have won game 5 due to a terrible call with 2.1 seconds left made by Hue Hollins, costing the bulls the game, which went to 7 games. Instant replayed showed the call clearly was incorrect. Sending Hubert Davis to the foul line for the win for the Knicks.

You can make a valid argument that the bulls should have at least beat the Knicks, and moved onto the Eastern Conferncr finals. And the Knicks made it to the finals that year.

Jordan is not the best player ever. He was the best player in an era of low competition in the NBA.

He is somewhere around Second or third best. With lebron as #1, Wilt/Kareem/magic/Jordan as #2 (can be debated many ways between those who is #2), 3, 4 and 5 is some combo of those remaining. I would say floor is Jordan 3, ceiling Jordan 2. But for sure not #1


Dont start arguing what should have happened but didnt because of a bad ref call because bro then Toronto would be perennial champs since 95

This post was edited by Crunkt on Jul 30 2021 10:51am
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Jul 30 2021 01:56pm
the disrespect for MJ is real.
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Jul 30 2021 02:14pm
Quote (MigNado @ Jul 30 2021 03:56pm)
the disrespect for MJ is real.


MJ would never survive in the era of social media.

Fuck, he admitted the media was too much for him back then and quit on the sport at one point. He'd get eaten alive in todays era of technology.
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Quote (MigNado @ 30 Jul 2021 15:56)
the disrespect for MJ is real.


Go to a team and win getting Finals MVP in your second year on the team...

Now do that 3 times

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Jul 30 2021 04:21pm
Quote (Lakeshow906 @ Jul 29 2021 09:14pm)
1. OJ
2. Bonds


lol havent heard Bonds' name in forever
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Jul 31 2021 01:27am
LBJ is 37 next playoffs, Westbrook will be 33. Only AD is 27 or 28.

Ain’t no superteam.

Nets KD 32, Harden 31, kyrie 29 that’s superteam
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