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A big man in a perimeter oriented modern NBA wins the award, while he doesn't even guard the opposing teams best player every night. Meanwhile Ben Simmons can be assigned to ANYONE on any given night and take them out of the game, literally at any position. Shouldn’t perimeter defense be valued now more than ever before in NBA history, especially as players like Steph Curry, Lillard, Harden, KD, Trae Young, Booker, etc, etc, continue to lead the league in points scored from the backcourt position?

Oh well, we knew Gobert had it in the bag by the end of the season because it's so much easier for a big man to win it still for some reason, so as expected Simmons finished #2. Feels good seeing 25% of the players with DPOY votes be 76ers though. Simmons, Embiid, and Thybulle are 3 of the best defenders in the league for sure.





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A big man in a perimeter oriented modern NBA wins the award, while he doesn't even guard the opposing teams best player every night. Meanwhile Ben Simmons can be assigned to ANYONE on any given night and take them out of the game, literally at any position. Shouldn’t perimeter defense be valued now more than ever before in NBA history, especially as players like Steph Curry, Lillard, Harden, KD, Trae Young, Booker, etc, etc, continue to lead the league in points scored from the backcourt position?

Oh well, we knew Gobert had it in the bag by the end of the season because it's so much easier for a big man to win it still for some reason, so as expected Simmons finished #2. Feels good seeing 25% of the players with DPOY votes be 76ers though. Simmons, Embiid, and Thybulle are 3 of the best defenders in the league for sure.




So much easier :wacko:
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Jun 10 2021 11:40am
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your photo is about MVP. this thread is about DPOY
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Jun 10 2021 11:44am
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Quote (JinGrubda @ Jun 10 2021 01:40pm)
your photo is about MVP. this thread is about DPOY


lol this

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Jun 10 2021 11:58am
Quote (Sixers @ Jun 10 2021 10:30am)
A big man in a perimeter oriented modern NBA wins the award, while he doesn't even guard the opposing teams best player every night. Meanwhile Ben Simmons can be assigned to ANYONE on any given night and take them out of the game, literally at any position. Shouldn’t perimeter defense be valued now more than ever before in NBA history, especially as players like Steph Curry, Lillard, Harden, KD, Trae Young, Booker, etc, etc, continue to lead the league in points scored from the backcourt position?

Oh well, we knew Gobert had it in the bag by the end of the season because it's so much easier for a big man to win it still for some reason, so as expected Simmons finished #2. Feels good seeing 25% of the players with DPOY votes be 76ers though. Simmons, Embiid, and Thybulle are 3 of the best defenders in the league for sure.



Yeah for some reason advanced metrics still skew heavily big because of dreb and blocks. Doesn’t feel like it would be that difficult to come up with metrics that weigh opponent 3s taken and opponent 3p% as well.
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Jun 10 2021 12:03pm
Well the league still thinks that Simmons is the best perimeter defender in the NBA so thats good enough for me
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Jun 10 2021 12:21pm
Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ Jun 10 2021 10:58am)
Yeah for some reason advanced metrics still skew heavily big because of dreb and blocks. Doesn’t feel like it would be that difficult to come up with metrics that weigh opponent 3s taken and opponent 3p% as well.


never understood why they consider dreb in picking DPOY. is it because it has the word "defensive" rebound? lmao
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never understood why they consider dreb in picking DPOY. is it because it has the word "defensive" rebound? lmao



It ends the possession for the opponent. It is a key defensive metric but still overvalued imo
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never understood why they consider dreb in picking DPOY. is it because it has the word "defensive" rebound? lmao


Yeah it literally is. L2basketball
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Quote (SaF7 @ Jun 10 2021 11:45am)
Yeah it literally is. L2basketball


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