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Oct 15 2019 01:30pm
Chinese media has just as much propaganda too, and it is spun just as how you say it.

Don't think for a second that whatever news source you are getting in China isn't also Bias, especially if for the mainland of China.


Are you in HK or Mainland?


You know Mainland China has an over 99% conviction rate? Did you know that the punishment for crimes in Mainland China is profoundly different than serving time in an HK jailcell? I.e hands removed, put to death, zero human rights. etc.

I would be fucking afraid if Mainland China tried to change the rules on me too. Introducing an extradition bill to allow Mainland China to forcefully remove people they deem as 'criminals' to their Mainland where everyone and their mother knows Human rights will be violated in prison.



HK protestors are violent because we all fucking know What Mainland China wants. Mainland China is communist bullshit regime that wants the whole world to burn. I wouldn't want to be a part of that either.


There have been SEVERAL other states that separated from Mainland China rule because it is bullshit and no one fucking likes it other than the brainwashed mainland citizens.

There is a reason Taiwan defected and Singapore defected etc etc. Is because they do not want to live in Communist bullshit where I do not have the freedom to travel the world, or the freedom to an unblocked internet.

You know mainland China censores any sort of free speech right?

You really think it is all western propaganda? Well let me tell you something budzo, It is the millions of HK people that have never ever ever set foot in the west, let alone watch our media, that are trying to defend their rights and freedoms that Mainland wants to begin to take away.. They are out there everyday. And I have contacts with Family in HK so I am not getting all my info from media. bee tee dubs.


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Oct 15 2019 01:32pm
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Fair enough, and in some ways touche, however, the trend of the times does not support your absolute adherence to 'free speech'

Would you seriously support 'free speech' in the face of hate crimes?

Facebook and other major online corporations have already banned hate speech, thus effectively ruling that 100% free speech is not a reality in the USA.

So, in fact, both the USA and China do not have black and white lines of freedom of speech. In fact, just shades of gray.



Agreed but that’s a rule made by an independent company based on their backlash and practices, it’s really bullshit because Hate Speech can’t even have a proper definition. But of course I’d support free speech for literally just about anything other than “fire in a crowded theatre,” barometer. Facebook is not the only social media option nor is it ran by the state or have any legal power against me so whatever a private company does isn’t the same as Chinese government saying what is “acceptable speech.”
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Oct 15 2019 01:38pm
How is the food over there
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Oct 15 2019 01:38pm
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Chinese media has just as much propaganda too, and it is spun just as how you say it.

Don't think for a second that whatever news source you are getting in China isn't also Bias, especially if for the mainland of China.


Are you in HK or Mainland?


You know Mainland China has an over 99% conviction rate? Did you know that the punishment for crimes in Mainland China is profoundly different than serving time in an HK jailcell? I.e hands removed, put to death, zero human rights. etc.

I would be fucking afraid if Mainland China tried to change the rules on me too. Introducing an extradition bill to allow Mainland China to forcefully remove people they deem as 'criminals' to their Mainland where everyone and their mother knows Human rights will be violated in prison.



HK protestors are violent because we all fucking know What Mainland China wants. Mainland China is communist bullshit regime that wants the whole world to burn. I wouldn't want to be a part of that either.


There have been SEVERAL other states that separated from Mainland China rule because it is bullshit and no one fucking likes it other than the brainwashed mainland citizens.

There is a reason Taiwan defected and Singapore defected etc etc. Is because they do not want to live in Communist bullshit where I do not have the freedom to travel the world, or the freedom to an unblocked internet.

You know mainland China censores any sort of free speech right?

You really think it is all western propaganda? Well let me tell you something budzo, It is the millions of HK people that have never ever ever set foot in the west, let alone watch our media, that are trying to defend their rights and freedoms that Mainland wants to begin to take away.. They are out there everyday. And I have contacts with Family in HK so I am not getting all my info from media. bee tee dubs.




I understand your point of view. I agree. Although my post only mentions Western Bias of new sources, Chinese news sources are also biased. I think that's inevitable.

I read a vast amount of news and information sources. Also, although I have clearly taken a pro-China stance, that's not because of any news bias but what is right from a moral standpoint.

1. HK is part of China.
2. Our media and people in fact have no right or reason to comment or interfere about what happens in China (China news sources never interfere with USA issues such as police brutality or school shootings)
3. From an unbiased point of view, the demonstrators are in the wrong. At this point they have shown violence towards innocent civilians/police offers and damaged the entire city they are apart of.

They are not fighting for your glamorized version of 'democracy' but in fact just hooligans looking for some random payout. They jump on the 'democracy' bandwagon' and Western media sources eat it up.

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Oct 15 2019 01:39pm
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I understand your point of view. I agree. Although my post only mentions Western Bias of new sources, Chinese news sources are also biased. I think that's inevitable.

I read a vast amount of news and information sources. Also, although I have clearly taken a pro-China stance, that's not because of any news bias but what is right from a moral standpoint.

1. HK is part of China.
2. Our media and people in fact have no right or reason to comment or interfere about what happens in China (China news sources never interfere with USA issues such as police brutality or school shootings)
3. From an unbiased point of view, the demonstrators are in the wrong. At this point they have shown violence towards innocent civilians/police offers and damaged the entire city they are apart of.

They are not fighting for your glamorized version of 'democracy' but in fact just hooligans looking for some random payout. They jump on the 'democracy' bandwagon' and Western media sources eat it up.



Do they have gangs like the Yakuza in China? Are you the tallest human being over there? Do u have pictures of the ocean, is it true it is filled with trash?
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Oct 15 2019 01:43pm
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Do they have gangs like the Yakuza in China? Are you the tallest human being over there? Do u have pictures of the ocean, is it true it is filled with trash?


You are clearly so ignorant. I played GTA3 when I was a kid in the USA other than that I have no idea bout said Yakuza.

I have teenage students taller than me. (I'm 6 ft 1)

The only beach I ever went to that was filled with trash was Myrtle Beach, SC, USA (went to 6 beaches in China already and 10-15 in USA)

This post was edited by judson04 on Oct 15 2019 01:45pm
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You are clearly so ignorant. I played GTA3 when I was a kid in the USA other than that I have no idea bout said Yakuza.

I have teenage students taller than me. (I'm 6 ft 1)

The only beach I ever went to that was filled with trash was Myrtle Beach, SC, USA.



Wow, communism seems pretty great
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Oct 15 2019 01:46pm
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Wow, communism seems pretty great


What part of my comment has anything to do with Communism? Also I doubt you have any idea what that word even means honestly
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Oct 15 2019 01:54pm
Who let adverb in this thread lol..
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Oct 15 2019 01:56pm
Quote (Adverb @ Oct 15 2019 03:45pm)
Wow, communism seems pretty great


:lol:
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