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I am pretty sure after each match, every stat is double checked by other people, not just the guy setting the stat as it happens for our boxscores.
Of course Pippen would say this. He averaged 2 steals per game for his career, with peak 2,9 one season. Add Jordans 2,3 per game for his season, with peak 3,2 one season.
There's not enough possessions for them to get more steals. JUst looking at one random season they had 9,5 steals per game as a team, and enemies averaged 92 possesions per game.
Maybe Scottie is mad about some single game where it would say Jordan had 5 steals and Pippen 2 steals and Pippen believes he should've had 4 at least.
Then we can argue this : if you tip a ball and its going to end up out of bounds, like you poke it away but you dont control it. Someone else grabs it. Who stole it?
Pippen just wants attention, fuck him.


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How many times has LeBron fouled out in his career? Dude doesn’t even get to his 5th foul majority of the time. He gets the golden whistle there is no doubt
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I dont see any evidence just words bro


Good old home cooking inflated Jordan's numbers 🤷‍♂️

Breaking out his numbers into game location, we find that Jordan averaged a mind-boggling 4 steals and 2.1 blocks at home. But on the road, those numbers shrunk to a more normal rate of 2.1 steals and 1.2 blocks.

Put simply, Jordan’s steals and blocks nearly doubled at home compared to the road. To account for possible uneven playing time effects, we can look at per-36-minute numbers for a truer portrayal of the phenomenon. Jordan’s combined block and steals numbers (“stocks”) were a whopping 82 percent higher at home (5.5 stocks per 36 minutes) than on the road (3.0).

It isn’t unusual for the NBA’s top defender to exhibit a slight home/road disparity. It’s common knowledge that players perform better at home in front of friendly confines (as Jackson showed last season).

But the size of Jordan’s 1987-88 gap is unprecedented.

Dating back to 1982-83 when the award was established, Jordan’s home-vs.-away disparity in combined blocks and steals represents the largest of any Defensive Player of the Year award winner in NBA history.

No other instance in the award’s history has a player shown a disparity that touched 160 percent — except for Jordan’s 1987-88 season, which clocked in at 182 percent.

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How many times has LeBron fouled out in his career? Dude doesn’t even get to his 5th foul majority of the time. He gets the golden whistle there is no doubt


According to the league office, in an effort to ensure the most accurate statistics, the NBA has used modern technology to apply real-time auditing oseason. In today’s environment, with more eyes on the game and a greater attention to detail in the legalized gambling era, the home/road disparity is now all but gone. The homer bias, at least statistically, seems to have been eradicated.



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According to the league office, in an effort to ensure the most accurate statistics, the NBA has used modern technology to apply real-time auditing oseason. In today’s environment, with more eyes on the game and a greater attention to detail in the legalized gambling era, the home/road disparity is now all but gone. The homer bias, at least statistically, seems to have been eradicated.


If you truly believe there aren't more Pete Roses, Jontay Porters, and Tim Donaghys manipulating games and stats then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn

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Good old home cooking inflated Jordan's numbers 🤷‍♂️

Breaking out his numbers into game location, we find that Jordan averaged a mind-boggling 4 steals and 2.1 blocks at home. But on the road, those numbers shrunk to a more normal rate of 2.1 steals and 1.2 blocks.

Put simply, Jordan’s steals and blocks nearly doubled at home compared to the road. To account for possible uneven playing time effects, we can look at per-36-minute numbers for a truer portrayal of the phenomenon. Jordan’s combined block and steals numbers (“stocks”) were a whopping 82 percent higher at home (5.5 stocks per 36 minutes) than on the road (3.0).

It isn’t unusual for the NBA’s top defender to exhibit a slight home/road disparity. It’s common knowledge that players perform better at home in front of friendly confines (as Jackson showed last season).

But the size of Jordan’s 1987-88 gap is unprecedented.

Dating back to 1982-83 when the award was established, Jordan’s home-vs.-away disparity in combined blocks and steals represents the largest of any Defensive Player of the Year award winner in NBA history.

No other instance in the award’s history has a player shown a disparity that touched 160 percent — except for Jordan’s 1987-88 season, which clocked in at 182 percent.



According to the league office, in an effort to ensure the most accurate statistics, the NBA has used modern technology to apply real-time auditing oseason. In today’s environment, with more eyes on the game and a greater attention to detail in the legalized gambling era, the home/road disparity is now all but gone. The homer bias, at least statistically, seems to have been eradicated.


This last part. I am pretty sure this Tom Harberstroh or w/e his name is made some posts about how JJJ had very skewed stats at home compared to on the road 2 years ago? 3,5 at home vs 2,5 on the road.
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The season before, when he was 8th in DPOY but somehow left of any all defensive team is mindboggling considering who they actually put there. He had 2,9 and 1,6 that season, compared to 3,2 and 1,5 the following DPOY year.
Could be because, despite his insane numbers, his team went 40-42, and in his DPOY year they went 50-32. Record means alot.

Also, do we think people voting for this simply look at the stats at the end of the season and determine who to put on a ballot?
Voters are indeed weird. Kareem got a 1st All NBA vote at age 39.
Mark Jackson wasnt unanimous ROY even though his rookie WS beats all the rookies together rofl, dude had 13/10 his first year but wasnt unanimous.
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Quote (MildSambal @ Jun 26 2024 01:56pm)
If you truly believe there aren't more Pete Roses, Jontay Porters, and Tim Donaghys manipulating games and stats then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn


You're naming players. We're talking about stat keepers and records...

In today's game, with the technology we have now it's MUCH harder to bullshit on stats. Every inch of the game is covered now. Unlike years back.

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This last part. I am pretty sure this Tom Harberstroh or w/e his name is made some posts about how JJJ had very skewed stats at home compared to on the road 2 years ago? 3,5 at home vs 2,5 on the road.


He did. But that difference for home/road split was nothing compared to what Jordan had that one year lol

Dating back to 1982-83 when the award was established, Jordan’s home-vs.-away disparity in combined blocks and steals represents the largest of any Defensive Player of the Year award winner in NBA history. By a large margin.

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You're naming players. We're talking about stat keepers and records...

In today's game, with the technology we have now it's MUCH harder to bullshit on stats. Every inch of the game is covered now. Unlike years back.


I named a coach, a player, and a ref that all were caught and/or admitted to corruption of sports games for personal gain
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I named a coach, a player, and a ref that all were caught and/or admitted to corruption of sports games for personal gain


Yeah, none of them are stat keepers...
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Yeah, none of them are stat keepers...


lol right because stats are just too holy to be corrupted in a world where games are manipulated for gambling outcomes
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