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Jan 17 2024 05:44pm
Quote (macfinn @ Jan 17 2024 04:14pm)
that

14 sec shotclock resets (more possessions each game = more pts)

take fouls

those are the major culprits, but there's been probably near a dozen significant rule changes over the last 20 years that all contribute largely to the higher scoring seasons

no question offensive players have honed their repertoires but defensive players should be getting just as much better, though rule changes rarely ever favour a defensive player (a le NFL too)

from a marketing standpoint, the league wants more casual fans and to touch more demographics. higher scoring games typically builds hype and ratings. a dynasty like the 90s/00s spurs were hardly ever talked about because they were boring, relying on stellar defense usually


It isn't working tho. NBA ratings are absolutely terrible.
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Jan 17 2024 06:10pm
game is dead garbo u rite.
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Jan 17 2024 08:27pm
Quote (Fgs @ Jan 17 2024 06:44pm)
It isn't working tho. NBA ratings are absolutely terrible.


Ratings can fuck off though. The core fanbase of the league is larger and more engaged than ever before. Look at the ballooning franchise values and consistent growth of league revenue. The leagues bigger and more popular than ever before globally. With that said, the NBA is actually seeing a large increase in viewership to last season.

Trying to compare ratings from like 1998 to now is a total waste of time. Things are MUCH different. Every episode of Seinfeld was more highly rated than the series finale of GOT if that tells you anything. Fewer options back in the day, and people only had broadcast TV. It's a different world now.

The NFL survives it because its on at the same time every week for the most part and it's just wildly popular in America. Football is king in Murica and it's not even close.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jan 17 2024 08:29pm
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Ratings can fuck off though. The core fanbase of the league is larger and more engaged than ever before. Look at the ballooning franchise values and consistent growth of league revenue. The leagues bigger and more popular than ever before globally. With that said, the NBA is actually seeing a large increase in viewership to last season.

Trying to compare ratings from like 1998 to now is a total waste of time. Things are MUCH different. Every episode of Seinfeld was more highly rated than the series finale of GOT if that tells you anything. Fewer options back in the day, and people only had broadcast TV. It's a different world now.

The NFL survives it because its on at the same time every week for the most part and it's just wildly popular in America. Football is king in Murica and it's not even close.


Aren't nlb playoff ratings better than NBA ratings?
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Jan 17 2024 09:37pm
Quote (Fgs @ Jan 17 2024 10:17pm)
Aren't nlb playoff ratings better than NBA ratings?


Sometimes. I think they're pretty neck and neck year to year.

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MLB has higher average attendance. NBA has slightly higher tv ratings. They have about equal total revenue. MLB and NBA go back and forth on what has higher average ratings for championship series.
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Quote (Bubbler @ 17 Jan 2024 14:49)
Your sig is moderation without representation.

We aren’t kids anymore who the fuck cares abt a mod on this website.

You seem more like a preteen than a boomer.

Xoxo, sorry couldn’t resist.

Also I’m sure we could find early 2010s post of us all idolizing Steph which is what hastened the demise of tough non playoff defense. That and Lbj’s perpetually nagging groin injuries throughout his career (aka intentionally resting players to avoid injury).


why you so obsessed with Lebrons crotch?

asking for a friend

Quote (Fgs @ 16 Jan 2024 21:49)
Yeah maybe I'm a boomer. I miss the 90-89 games


Nba is turning into the NFL, by design. pleb fans eagerly sitting and waiting to see how the refs are going to dictate the game. The easiest way to convince everyone this is okay is to do things such as create a 2 minute report, stop the play and go on the mic to announce to everyone what the calls are, heavily fine anyone that even looks sideways at the way the games are handled. Kerr put it very well, legistlating defense out of the game. I had to sit through 48 minutes of Demar Derozan double pump fake to draw a foul yesterday and its fucking sickening.

Ever since the removal of hand checking the game has been grossly manipulated to be a non contact sport. Basketball is now a non contact sport its quite fucking disgusting.

So because of the lack of freedom for defenders to you know, defend... Then ya points have skyrocketed.

Anyone arguing that the proliferation of the 3 ball is why there are more ppg is incorrect. It is the lack of hand checking, and the continued skew towards a non contact type of defense that is required now allows all these mans to do whatever they want. NBA has even in their defense tried to cut back when they added the no scissor kicking rule for offending parties. But all the time we still get calls because the shooter moves forward during a shot and the defender goes straight up and the refs always give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter in these cases. Take that Dame 3 ft that Brown was vehemently complaining about the other day (dude literally brought out a laptop to show the press how shit the call was, goodbye 50k) The defender did literally nothing out of bounds but because the game has skewed to hard that an easy 3 extra points out of nowhere assuming Dame hits those fts

I whole heartedly agree with you. People who actually enjoy the direction the NBA is going in are the same people that want their kid to get a 18th palce participation trophy. Sad deterioration of a great sport unfortunately.
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Quote (Crunkt @ Jan 19 2024 02:02pm)
why you so obsessed with Lebrons crotch?

asking for a friend



Nba is turning into the NFL, by design. pleb fans eagerly sitting and waiting to see how the refs are going to dictate the game. The easiest way to convince everyone this is okay is to do things such as create a 2 minute report, stop the play and go on the mic to announce to everyone what the calls are, heavily fine anyone that even looks sideways at the way the games are handled. Kerr put it very well, legistlating defense out of the game. I had to sit through 48 minutes of Demar Derozan double pump fake to draw a foul yesterday and its fucking sickening.

Ever since the removal of hand checking the game has been grossly manipulated to be a non contact sport. Basketball is now a non contact sport its quite fucking disgusting.

So because of the lack of freedom for defenders to you know, defend... Then ya points have skyrocketed.

Anyone arguing that the proliferation of the 3 ball is why there are more ppg is incorrect. It is the lack of hand checking, and the continued skew towards a non contact type of defense that is required now allows all these mans to do whatever they want. NBA has even in their defense tried to cut back when they added the no scissor kicking rule for offending parties. But all the time we still get calls because the shooter moves forward during a shot and the defender goes straight up and the refs always give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter in these cases. Take that Dame 3 ft that Brown was vehemently complaining about the other day (dude literally brought out a laptop to show the press how shit the call was, goodbye 50k) The defender did literally nothing out of bounds but because the game has skewed to hard that an easy 3 extra points out of nowhere assuming Dame hits those fts

I whole heartedly agree with you. People who actually enjoy the direction the NBA is going in are the same people that want their kid to get a 18th palce participation trophy. Sad deterioration of a great sport unfortunately.


Gonna have to wait for my next poop to read that
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Quote (Crunkt @ Jan 19 2024 07:02pm)
why you so obsessed with Lebrons crotch?

asking for a friend



Nba is turning into the NFL, by design. pleb fans eagerly sitting and waiting to see how the refs are going to dictate the game. The easiest way to convince everyone this is okay is to do things such as create a 2 minute report, stop the play and go on the mic to announce to everyone what the calls are, heavily fine anyone that even looks sideways at the way the games are handled. Kerr put it very well, legistlating defense out of the game. I had to sit through 48 minutes of Demar Derozan double pump fake to draw a foul yesterday and its fucking sickening.

Ever since the removal of hand checking the game has been grossly manipulated to be a non contact sport. Basketball is now a non contact sport its quite fucking disgusting.

So because of the lack of freedom for defenders to you know, defend... Then ya points have skyrocketed.

Anyone arguing that the proliferation of the 3 ball is why there are more ppg is incorrect. It is the lack of hand checking, and the continued skew towards a non contact type of defense that is required now allows all these mans to do whatever they want. NBA has even in their defense tried to cut back when they added the no scissor kicking rule for offending parties. But all the time we still get calls because the shooter moves forward during a shot and the defender goes straight up and the refs always give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter in these cases. Take that Dame 3 ft that Brown was vehemently complaining about the other day (dude literally brought out a laptop to show the press how shit the call was, goodbye 50k) The defender did literally nothing out of bounds but because the game has skewed to hard that an easy 3 extra points out of nowhere assuming Dame hits those fts

I whole heartedly agree with you. People who actually enjoy the direction the NBA is going in are the same people that want their kid to get a 18th palce participation trophy. Sad deterioration of a great sport unfortunately.


agreed.
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Quote (Crunkt @ Jan 19 2024 02:02pm)
why you so obsessed with Lebrons crotch?

asking for a friend



Nba is turning into the NFL, by design. pleb fans eagerly sitting and waiting to see how the refs are going to dictate the game. The easiest way to convince everyone this is okay is to do things such as create a 2 minute report, stop the play and go on the mic to announce to everyone what the calls are, heavily fine anyone that even looks sideways at the way the games are handled. Kerr put it very well, legistlating defense out of the game. I had to sit through 48 minutes of Demar Derozan double pump fake to draw a foul yesterday and its fucking sickening.

Ever since the removal of hand checking the game has been grossly manipulated to be a non contact sport. Basketball is now a non contact sport its quite fucking disgusting.

So because of the lack of freedom for defenders to you know, defend... Then ya points have skyrocketed.

Anyone arguing that the proliferation of the 3 ball is why there are more ppg is incorrect. It is the lack of hand checking, and the continued skew towards a non contact type of defense that is required now allows all these mans to do whatever they want. NBA has even in their defense tried to cut back when they added the no scissor kicking rule for offending parties. But all the time we still get calls because the shooter moves forward during a shot and the defender goes straight up and the refs always give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter in these cases. Take that Dame 3 ft that Brown was vehemently complaining about the other day (dude literally brought out a laptop to show the press how shit the call was, goodbye 50k) The defender did literally nothing out of bounds but because the game has skewed to hard that an easy 3 extra points out of nowhere assuming Dame hits those fts

I whole heartedly agree with you. People who actually enjoy the direction the NBA is going in are the same people that want their kid to get a 18th palce participation trophy. Sad deterioration of a great sport unfortunately.


You're overthinking it.

NBA is all about space and pace. A higher % of shots are now threes. The floor is spaced more than ever, players are more evolved than ever and capable of scoring in so many ways. Big men can't just camp the paint, defenses can't just pack the paint either. Defenses have to play honest to all of the shooters, opening up the lane.

More threes combined with more spacing and easier open games to attack = more scoring. NBA defenses are more evolved than ever, but it's BY FAR harder to play defense than ever before.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jan 19 2024 08:11pm
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So many posts in this thread that will literally never be read
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