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Jun 11 2016 08:46pm
Quote (Profar @ Jun 11 2016 10:37pm)
....So wait....Let me get this straight....When evaluating pitchers and players we shouldn't dig deeper to see the real problems we should just look at the ERA and say welp he sucks.

Okay lets do that.

Leake - 4-4 4.22 ERA 44 strikeouts (LOLOLOLOLOLOL) in 74.2 innings this year
Archer - 4-8 4.61 ERA 96 strikeouts in 78.1 Innings this year


Umm yeah give me the pitcher with DOUBLE the strikeouts and just pray his offense heats up LOL


This is such a bad trade lololol



Okay and Archer has had 4 20+ starts this year aswell they just weren't back to back to back whats your point?


im saying that leake is good enough to have trade value thats my point, he gets points and can be counted on more likely then not to provide them

thats what i am looking at im not digging in babip or any of that shit im looking at what is getting points and what these guys are doing with stats that matter
veto the trade for all i care i couldnt care less archers value is low and les is getting the points back in leake plus a player he obviously needs(he wants segura)who will put up points plus a prospect who will eventually be up

u dug real deep to say its a rape i disagree

This post was edited by jackzors on Jun 11 2016 08:49pm
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Jun 11 2016 08:58pm
Quote (jackzors @ Jun 11 2016 08:46pm)
im saying that leake is good enough to have trade value thats my point, he gets points and can be counted on more likely then not to provide them

thats what i am looking at im not digging in babip or any of that shit im looking at what is getting points and what these guys are doing with stats that matter
veto the trade for all i care i couldnt care less archers value is low and les is getting the points back in leake plus a player he obviously needs(he wants segura)who will put up points plus a prospect who will eventually be up

u dug real deep to say its a rape i disagree


I will never veto a trade lol

And I am not quite understanding what you mean with "stats that matter" ??? Are you saying strikeouts don't matter here? because Archer has double the K's Leake does.
Even with how bad Archer has been this year he has more fantasy points than Leake...Why is that?? because he strikes out almost double the amount of batters that Leake does.

So BABIP aside Archer still destroys Leake and it's not even close, just imagine when Archer gets on his game.

I think you are VERY undervaluing K's in fantasy baseball lol
A strikeout is 1.7 points an out is 0.7 points.

So basically you're trading a worse pitcher and a 2b/SS that could be dropped for Chris Archer

seems good tho

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Jun 11 2016 09:06pm
Quote (Profar @ Jun 11 2016 10:58pm)
I will never veto a trade lol

And I am not quite understanding what you mean with "stats that matter" ??? Are you saying strikeouts don't matter here? because Archer has double the K's Leake does.
Even with how bad Archer has been this year he has more fantasy points than Leake...Why is that?? because he strikes out almost double the amount of batters that Leake does.

So BABIP aside Archer still destroys Leake and it's not even close, just imagine when Archer gets on his game.

I think you are VERY undervaluing K's in fantasy baseball lol
A strikeout is 1.7 points an out is 0.7 points.


no brother complete opposite thats his upside even with his shit era, wins/losses, those are the other stats i mean
and his inconsistent offense

hence why i want him lol, if he gets back on his game fucking great thats obviously what im hoping for

segura droppable lol?

nobody on the wire is ranked higher then him
a worse pitcher by 13 points?

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Jun 11 2016 09:19pm
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no brother complete opposite thats his upside even with his shit era, wins/losses, those are the other stats i mean
and his inconsistent offense

hence why i want him lol, if he gets back on his game fucking great thats obviously what im hoping for

segura droppable lol?

nobody on the wire is ranked higher then him
a worse pitcher by 13 points?


I would take Profar in a heartbeat over Segura

Could also take Cosart who is the same player but averaging more points over the last 30 days
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Jun 11 2016 09:30pm
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I would take Profar in a heartbeat over Segura

Could also take Cosart who is the same player but averaging more points over the last 30 days


profar isnt on the wire lol, same can be said on cozart with 2nd halves

what team are u anyway
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Jun 11 2016 09:33pm
Quote (jackzors @ Jun 11 2016 09:30pm)
profar isnt on the wire lol, same can be said on cozart with 2nd halves

what team are u anyway


That's because I just picked him up

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Jun 11 2016 09:37pm
Quote (Profar @ Jun 11 2016 11:33pm)
That's because I just picked him up


lol now i see

and sapphire, i HIGHLY suggest u drop adam morgan he absolutely sucks and is by far the worst starter in our rotation, i honestly have noooo idea how he even is in the rotation anymore
u will not get spot start points, especially against the nationals u might as well chalk that and go in a diff direction, he will not strike out enough to even get u 10 points
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Jun 11 2016 09:43pm
That trade offer is terrible

Lets just say; I was able to pick up Leake every start and drop him afterwards and still be able to pick him up for his next start. He has no value and even less fantasy value.

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Jun 11 2016 09:48pm
Quote (Schwarber @ Jun 11 2016 11:43pm)
That trade offer is terrible

Lets just say; I was able to pick up Leake every start and drop him afterwards and still be able to pick him up for his next start. He has no value and even less fantasy value.


he has more value then half your staff, 3 of those dudes dont even belong on a team
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Jun 12 2016 08:23am
Quote (jackzors @ Jun 11 2016 10:48pm)
he has more value then half your staff, 3 of those dudes dont even belong on a team


He has the equivalent of those guys; hence why I was able to drop him; pick him back up while nobody claimed him for 6 consectuive starts and he sat on waivers because I didn't want him again because he sucks dick and finally you pick him up off waivers not even using a claim spot because that's how much Mike Leake sucks dick. Leake is not a fantasy pitcher; all he does is soak up innings. He doesn't get strikeouts, he gives up a shit load of hits.. and giving up next to nothing along with it in Segura (which you can find on the waiver wire of the same value) for a top 15 pitcher in baseball.. yeah seems fair; o wait.

I don't care regardless; this is coming from someone who you spotted in.. it's not even close to fair. I stopped paying attention to this league a while ago which is why I didn't vote on it.

This post was edited by Schwarber on Jun 12 2016 08:27am
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