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Apr 20 2013 08:47pm
Quote (Wine @ Apr 20 2013 10:42pm)
Did anyone go to the game today? I was just wondering how cold it was in the stadium....do you need a sweater/jacket? planning on going tomorrrow


xVitality did

it's always a little chilly, but a light sweater should do the trick

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xVitality did

it's always a little chilly, but a light sweater should do the trick


Its gonna be around 5 tomorrow.
I think Im gonna wear a long sleeve + light jacket and just take off the jacket when inside.
I watched the game today and saw a lot of people with jackets but also people in tshirts + jerseys rolf
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Apr 20 2013 08:54pm
i was jealous of the kawasaki shirts, i want 1

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Apr 20 2013 09:39pm
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rasmus, no. either strike out or hit basically. 53 AB, 26 SO, 12 H, 5 BB. of his other 10 AB i can recall him popping out numerous times (has he had a ground ball out?)
arencibia about the same as rasmus
encarnacion was hitting nothing but weak ground balls/pop outs at the start of the year, can't even try to deny that. he has been hitting the ball hard lately and been rewarded
davis, lol so many pop outs, can't recall him grounding out except for 2 dp he hit into
bautista has had a few line outs
cabrera has had a few line outs
lind i pointed out more than once was smoking the ball and not being rewarded, then when he did start hitting hasn't started a game since 3 for 3 with a walk
reyes was lining everything he hit, but hes been out over a week
kawasaki hasn't been around long enough to say much, but he doesn't really hit the ball hard

so where are these hard hit balls coming from? :P i really will start counting their hard hit outs

also the team is currently hitting .181 with RISP, 20 hits/17 BB in 110 AB with 32 K, that is awful. 32 of 73 outs with RISP via the K, productive outs really need to come around! and i know very well the majority of those 41 other outs have not been hit hardly.

wow hitting .179 with runners on lol, i knew it was bad...


All of those players have hit the ball hard. You're basically saying what they're doing now is going to continue. They have been incredibly unlucky. the low BABIP proves this.
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All of those players have hit the ball hard. You're basically saying what they're doing now is going to continue. They have been incredibly unlucky. the low BABIP proves this.


BABIP just means they are hitting into a lot of outs, aka non productive at bats. doesn't say line-outs or fly outs. they have almost all been swinging like shit lol
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BABIP just means they are hitting into a lot of outs, aka non productive at bats. doesn't say line-outs or fly outs. they have almost all been swinging like shit lol


Oh God
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Apr 20 2013 10:13pm
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Oh God


does babip mean something different than i think? batters avg on balls in play? so they are unlucky that they are hitting like shit and errors arent being made by the other team? :huh:
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Apr 20 2013 10:19pm
Quote (Wine @ Apr 20 2013 10:51pm)
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he has a point

now i dont follow toronto so i dunno how its really going, but just because you have a below average BABIP doesnt have to mean youre unlucky. if youre not making good contact it will reflect it in a bad way. it could be unlucky, but it could also be bad swings/at bats.

well hit average and line drive% mean alot in this situation.

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does babip mean something different than i think? batters avg on balls in play? so they are unlucky that they are hitting like shit and errors arent being made by the other team?  :huh:


errors made by the other team wouldnt help BABIP.

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Quote (Genetics @ 21 Apr 2013 00:19)
he has a point

now i dont follow toronto so i dunno how its really going, but just because you have a below average BABIP doesnt have to mean youre unlucky. if youre not making good contact it will reflect it in a bad way. it could be unlucky, but it could also be bad swings/at bats.

well hit average and line drive% mean alot in this situation.


its been bad. yes some balls have been hit hard, of course. lind especially had been hitting the ball hard almost every at bat, but the defense was just set up perfectly for it. they have been unlucky at times, but they have been swinging the bats very, very poorly. thats why i think saying they have been incredibly unlucky is a stretch. no one in the organization has mentioned being unlucky, all ive heard is poor play and that it hasnt come together yet. for a jays fan to say they have been anything but terrible so far hasnt been paying attention lol. i dont think im completely understanding babip, but im not going to give them an excuse for poor play

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Apr 21 2013 08:49am
win this one for Wine :blush:
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