Because you probably won't be able to trade bullpen arms for him. You think he is only worth bullpen arms? You're crazy.

Yeah, reynolds is the type of hitter the A's and billy bean's money ball would jump all over ... high slg%, okay obp% and doesn't know how to hit for average. Definitely the type of player that will make an impact in the AL East, and specially for the price of tillman. The Reason a lot of their pitching prospects don't pan out is because they have to face the redsox and yankees like 12 times in the first month, I'd like to see the pitching prospect that shuts both those opening day offenses(both healthy) down and lives up to their expectation. Reynolds is a decent player, he WOULD prove good power, but tillman's potential far outweights a hitter who only hits for power.

yea i do, and so does every other person in the world besides diamondback fans. You really overvalue Reynolds.

If this was a first time thing and they didn't want to give up Tillman I would understand but it is very obvious the Orioles have no eye for talent and have no idea if any pitcher will end up being good. He had what 1 or 2 good outings and the rest of the time he was garbage? Oh, but he has potential!!!!! Potential and a buck can get you a McChicken at McDonald's. And who the fuck is even talking about Beane? His "moneyball" approach has worked out great hasn't it? They have sure won a lot of WS using that approach. Oh wait they haven't.

You guys think the O's should hang onto their #5 pitcher who has potential to be a #2 instead of getting a legit 3B that can take a walk (something the Orioles players can't), and hit 40+ HR (something no Orioles player can), and play adequate defense at 3B (something Wiggington can't) than go ahead make the division even easier I really don't care. The Orioles do have a few nice players like Markakis, Jones, Matusz, and Arrieta but they don't have one real power threat. Their farm system is also garbage and they have no future 3B there either.

@Bold, that's exactly my point, Hitters that can only hit for power have little use in a winning MLB team except for bottom of the line up and pinch hitting.

Beltre is now going to hit the market now that Adrian Gonzales is with the Red Sox. The O's could try and pursue him, even though some people say he will only sign with a west coast team. You forget to mention the fact that Reynolds is more than strike out prone. Good, he can give you 30+ HR's, he'll also give you 160+ K's. I don't see how you can possibly think that a hitter that strikes out as often as he does(The most in the majors) will fare well in the toughest division. And the price is too high for that. You say a projected number 2 is good for a solid 3b, well a projected number 2 landed the phillies roy oswalt.

Dude, Tillman may be good you have no idea if he will. The Orioles fans once thought Daniel Cabrera would be the right handed Randy Johnson, lol. They are the kings of overhyping prospects. I've seen Tillman pitch before, he has no control.

I never brought up Beltre because we all know they won't pay the money required to sign someone like him. That's whats wrong with the organization. They have money but don't spend it. They think their young talent is going to fix everything. To get a good player you have to give up a guy who has a chance at being good sometimes.

Yankees CI - Teixeira and Rodriguez
Red Sox CI - Youkilis and Gonzalez
Orioles CI - Wiggington and Bell

Is that a joke? They won't compete with either of us with scrubs like that even if Tillman ends up being a #2 starter. Watch Tillman pitch sometime. The only reason he almsot threw a no-no vs Texas was because they weren't expecting his cutter that he just learned. He is way too wild, Buck doesn't even like him.

That's true, but a lot of pitchers in the majors start out with terrible control. He may never correct it, you are right, but even if they trade for reynolds they will still be a 60 win team. If tillman pans out or at least shows some flashes next season their chances to improve increase dramatically. A lot of the problems with the O's last year were with the pitching, not just with the offense.

okay calm down. I watch EVERY GAME and you clearly dont. Tillman looked like a different pitcher after working with Buck, and stop acting like you know the Orioles whole system because you clearly dont. Thank god you are not a GM. Obviously our first and third situations are not good, but if you want to overpay for above average talent then you are not being smart.

Their main problem was they couldn't score any runs. Orioles always do this though. Have a chance to trade a young pitcher, they don't because they overvalue him, then years later the guy is worth nothing and the Orioles end up releasing him.

Must be why in 2 of his final 4 starts with Buck he walked 6 people?

The Orioles have no system at all by the way. They have Machado and Britton after that they don't have one legit prospect. If I was your GM I would have signed Dunn for DH, Beltre for 3B, and Lee or Pena for 1B. We all know you guys have the money to sign all 3 of them but are just being jews.

We shouldn't be hanging onto Hernandez. He is a bullpen pitcher. We have much more pressing needs than a bullpen pitcher. I'm not saying to trade him for nothing but we shouldn't be acting like he is the next Strassburg and refuse to trade him.

Need to get 3B, 1B, SS, and LF figured out.

I would get Reynolds for 3B, Hardy for SS, Lee for 1B, and Crawford for LF.