Vn1.

EE hits another one... =]

Bout time Lawrie got one. =]

The rumours of Farrell being traded to Boston are heating up again, The Fan 590 is reporting it's going to happen, and they're owned by Rogers (Who owns the team) so this isn't some farfetched rumour.

Wonder who the Jays could get for him.

Nobody worthwhile.
Pls sum John Gibbons back.

I won't miss him honestly, I would send him away for almost anyone.

I really enjoyed him as the manager.
I honestly don't think he has been any detriment to the team and for the most part, I dont disagree with many of his calls (Whether that be a pinch hitter, bullpen activity etc)
Anyone who thinks that he has something to do with the Jays being so bad this year is an idiot. This team isn't built to win more than 70 games a year with all the injuries it has gone through.
Even if everyone was healthy, I dont think we'd even be that close to .500 with the way the Orioles have played this year against us.

With Drabek, Hutch, and Bautista alone playing the full year .500 is completely reasonable. Much above that, I agree, is unlikely.

I don't think Farrell is the cause of the season's sucking -- I do at times question his calls but that also has nothing to do with how effective a manager he is. I do not see him as an outstanding manager, and there are managers available who are equally middle of the road or potentially better. In that case I see selling him to Boston as profit transaction.

First of all, I really don't think even if we had everyone healthy we'd be at .500
Drabek was not good this year at all. Metrics and even standard stats...he was awful.
Hutchison was mediocre.
Bautista could have contributed maybe 3...4 wins max more had he stayed healthy
Morrow could have been the wildcard to get us close to .500 had he + the guys mentioned above were healthy.
Im confident though that next year we'll see really good years from Jose, EE (Again), and Rasmus. Not so much from the rest.

I think the reason why I am satisfied with Farrell is that I know there are many worse managers out there who can do more wrong...I wouldnt mind him staying.
But if we were to deal him....I would NOT want to see him in Boston, HE KNOWS TOO MUCH

Eh we mined him for a lot on Boston already too

We can finish with 73 wins (if we the Twins are swept) .500 is not that far away. If you are willing to give Bautista 3 wins that is only asking the starters (+ other injuries Lawrie, Arencibia, etc) to come up with 5 wins. I'm not suggesting I expected them to hit a wildcard or anything, but certainly keep their head at the waterline. They did it last year with a pretty marginal team.