Agreed. Pointless deal lost nothing gained nothing. Team is fucked for the season

We lost a lot for nothing
We can't make a push this year cause even with JajajaHapp (who is total trash by the way) the Jays won't get anywhere.
Lyon is done after this season
Carpenter might be the one pitcher worse than Cordero

Lost a ton of fucking legit prospects for a bunch of trash
Seriously fucking AA he's losing it

Yeah, Happ is brutal. The only good thing this trade accomplished was finally doing the Francisco/ Snider swap.

No it's not. Toronto traded two negative value players in Cordero and Francisco, along with a bunch of low-mid level prospects who play in the low minors (Perez, Wojciechowski, Musgrove, Rollins) for bullpen and starter help (Not right now since Happ will start in the bullpen).

None of the players Toronto lost were good, none. Asher Wojciechowski was probably the best player they gave up and he's a 23 year old still far away from the MLB. He's going to be a reliever at most.

Happ's advanced stats suggest hes a lot better than his normal stats indicate.

This post was edited by Caedus on Jul 20 2012 10:40am

Proven failures <<<<<<< Good prospects

Jays failed this trade, hard.

They're not good prospects, I don't know where you ever heard that.

just ignore him, he didn't know who either of those prospects were till they became relevant

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2 more pitchers and a solid catching prospect
jays got raped hard in this trade i was actually surprised at how bad this was