Quote (omgimrich @ Nov 15 2011 10:22pm)

so how should they do it? sign fielder, wilson, darvish, pujols, etc.? sorry, they aren't going to spend the money to sign any of them let alone 2 or 3 of them. let's hear how the they are going to compete in the next 4/5 years.

i'm telling you what the better way to compete is because it's obvious that you and your franchise have no idea how to do it.

look at tampa bay, terrible for years and years and now they are one of the elite teams in the game. instead of winning 70ish games per year over the next 4, calling up machado/bundy/etc., and continuing to win 70ish games per year the organization would be much better off winning 55ish games per year the next 4 to set themselves up like the rays did.

Quote (tuckerblair89 @ Nov 15 2011 10:30pm)

look all im gonna say is that if you want to trade away valuable pieces, it would be anyone BUT Wieters. I am perfectly OK with trading anyone but him.
You will never convince me of a logical reason to trade him. And the Orioles can resign him easily . They are not a low end market team. They have money and have always been good at keeping their own players for the most part.

Quote (Greetings @ Nov 15 2011 10:31pm)

I think his point is (I'm not agreeing with him) but you're not going to be contending with him regardless, you're better off with 2-4 good player over 1 great player.

Quote (tuckerblair89 @ Nov 15 2011 10:30pm)

look all im gonna say is that if you want to trade away valuable pieces, it would be anyone BUT Wieters. I am perfectly OK with trading anyone but him.
You will never convince me of a logical reason to trade him. And the Orioles can resign him easily . They are not a low end market team. They have money and have always been good at keeping their own players for the most part.

Quote (Frazzles @ Nov 15 2011 10:35pm)

Prospects are never a sure thing though. The chances of even 2 prospects from a major trade working out is small. Really no reason to trade Wieters at all lol. Besides, why is 4-5 years the limit for contention? Wieters isn't going to completely drop off after 5 years or anything, and I'm sure he will be signed long-term in the near future.

Quote (omgimrich @ Nov 15 2011 10:35pm)

it's understandable because you're a fan and i'd take it from your signature that he is probably your favorite player. logically though it makes perfect sense to trade him (as well as hardy, markakis, jones, etc.) and attempt to turn the farm system into an elite system filled with players that will all be called up within the next 3-5 years. therefore, you would have a plethora of players being called up that are all top prospects around the same time.

the only way wieters is going to resign is if the team is good. he's a boras client so he likely isn't going to be extending before free agency. chances are the o's aren't going to be that great in the next couple years.

Quote (omgimrich @ Nov 15 2011 10:38pm)

he's a boras client, he's likely not going to extend anytime soon especially with the team being so bad. if he keeps improving offensively he is going to be worth more than the o's have ever paid a player by the time he is a free agent.

Quote (tuckerblair89 @ Nov 15 2011 10:39pm)

actually he is not even a top 3 favorite of mine lol. I like Markakis, Arrieta and probably Pedro Strop more.
And i disagree that we have slim chances of resigning him. We have signed Boras clients before and will continue to have good business with him. Oddly enough, Angelos and Boras have been working rather well together the past few years.

Quote (Frazzles @ Nov 15 2011 10:41pm)

Being a Boras Client doesn't really change anything. Cargo was a Boras Client and signed a long-term deal after one full MLB season. Weirder things have happened.

Quote (omgimrich @ Nov 15 2011 10:44pm)

big difference in signing an extension after one season so you aren't getting paid 450K per year for the next couple seasons than extending after the  4/5 seasons (assuming they would want to extend him after next year or the season after).