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Cueto was vocal about wanting to go to Boston


really? do tell
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As per his agent
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really? do tell


http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/report-johnny-cueto-really-wanted-go-to-the-red-sox

First article I found when Google searching.
Saw it on Twitter originally
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http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/report-johnny-cueto-really-wanted-go-to-the-red-sox

First article I found when Google searching.
Saw it on Twitter originally


I mean what Dominican ace doesn't want to be with Pedro
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I mean what Dominican ace doesn't want to be with Pedro


he has since tweeted a picture of Juan Marichal :)
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Dec 16 2015 11:22am
Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal with Dodgers
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Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal with Dodgers


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Get ready marlins here comes the big trade
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The Chicago White Sox have landed All-Star Todd Frazier from the Cincinnati Reds in a seven-player trade that also involved the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The Reds will receive infielders Jose Peraza and Brandon Dixon and outfielder Scott Schebler from the Dodgers. The White Sox send pitcher Frankie Montas, infielder Micah Johnson and outfielder Trayce Thompson to the Dodgers.

The 29-year-old Frazier, who likely pushes new White Sox infielder Brett Lawrie from third base to second, batted .255 with 35 homers and 89 RBIs. He won last summer's All-Star Home Run Derby in Cincinnati and was an NL All-Star in each of the last two seasons.

"Todd is one of the finer all around third basemen in the league. He is a high-character, smart baseball player who will provide an impact bat in the middle of our order," White Sox general manager Rick Hahn said in a statement. "He solidifies us defensively at third base and provides a great presence in our lineup and in the clubhouse."

White Sox, Dodgers make out well in three-way trade with Reds
The White Sox gave their lineup a boost, acquiring Todd Frazier from the Reds, and the Dodgers set themselves up to shed an expensive outfielder.
Frazier has a $7.5 million salary next year and can become a free agent after the 2017 season.

According to MLB.com, Peraza was the Dodgers' fourth-ranked prospect last season, while Schebler was 13th. Montas was the White Sox's third-ranked prospect, while Johnson was fifth and Thompson 14th.

Thompson, brother of Golden State Warriors guard Klay Thompson, played 44 games in the big leagues last year and batted .295 with five homers and 16 RBIs. He could spell Joc Pederson in center field.

Montas, a 6-foot-2 right-hander, struck out 20 in 15 major league innings last season. A hard thrower, he likely will start the season in the rotation at Triple-A Oklahoma City, but the Dodgers think he could be an impact starter in the majors as soon as 2016.


White sox makin moves
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Bad deal for the Reds imo. Sold high on him and still didn't get anything truly impressive in return
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Bad deal for the Reds imo. Sold high on him and still didn't get anything truly impressive in return


I agree, Peraza was a big time prospect but to get traded twice now in under a year is a little concerning.

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I'm floored that this is all the Reds could get for two years of Todd Frazier.

Jose Peraza is the one serious prospect they're getting back, and even he has seen his value dip a bit because of a disappointing 2015 season, in which his lack of power or patience showed his reliance on batting average. Peraza is a former shortstop who was moved to second base in one of many ill-fated decisions under Atlanta's previous regime, although I think he could probably handle shortstop if he were given time to readjust to it. Otherwise he's a potential 70 defender (in the 20-80 scouting scale) at second who makes a lot of contact and is a plus-plus runner but has a little of that Billy Hamilton disease at the plate.
The Reds got two other players: Scott Schebler and Brandon Dixon. Schebler performed well as an older player in good parks in the low minors, but he hit a wall in Triple-A this year at age 24. He's very strong and could hit 10-15 homers as a part-time player, albeit with a low average and OBP, and while he can handle center field on a temporary basis, he's really best-suited to left. At most, he's a fourth outfielder, and he might not even be that. Dixon might be just an organizational player, a poor second baseman who has played some outfield and whose only good performance in pro ball was when he repeated the Cal League at hitter-friendly Rancho Cucamonga. So this deal could easily turn out to be Frazier for Peraza, and that's not as much as I thought Frazier would fetch in return.

The Chicago White Sox get Frazier, and I think they came out the best in this three-team deal. Frazier is 29 years old and under control through the end of 2017, so Chicago gets what should be two peak years from him, more or less, and even if the power surge of 2014 and '15 doesn't last, he was still about a three-win player in each of the two years before that, playing above-average defense at third base with enough power to overcome modest to poor OBPs. White Sox third basemen were so bad in 2015 (.226/.277/.345) that they would have been better off firing Robin Ventura and installing him at the hot corner, so Frazier is a huge upgrade right away.

The "small-market" Los Angeles Dodgers continue their arduous rebuilding process, acquiring three prospects, all of whom are major league-ready in some fashion. Micah Johnson flopped in an early 2015 trial in the majors, but it was far too short to be concerned about him, and when he got healthy and played every day in Triple-A, he did what he always does: made a lot of contact with some doubles power and ran like hell. He has been improving at second base but is still below average there, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he'll eventually have to move to center field, but I'd leave him at second for at least another year and see if more work there improves his glove to the point where it's passable, because the bat will profile well there.

Frankie Montas throws 100 mph -- he hit 101 in a short stint at the 2015 Futures Game -- with a hard slider in the upper 80s but terrible command. He's a big, somewhat awkward kid who has had trouble repeating his delivery, and when he's throwing 98-plus mph, it can get pretty straight, so while he hasn't walked a ton of guys in the minors, his command has remained poor, and I think a lot of his success in the lower levels came from just blowing guys away with velocity. His changeup is very easy to pick up out of his hand, and he has had trouble with left-handed hitters on and off in his career. He has a very thick body and has already had a serious knee injury that cost him about half of 2014. The Dodgers intend to leave him as a starter, but I think he'll end up in a late-game relief role.

Trayce Thompson might be a 70 defender in center field right now and has plus power, but he has a long swing and has always had trouble maintaining a good contact rate. He has a high floor as a quality fourth outfielder because of his defense, and it's not unreasonable to think he might be a Kevin Pillar type, so good on defense that he could be a regular even with a .300 OBP and 15 homers.

The value received is great, but why wouldn't the Dodgers just get Frazier and move Justin Turner to second base? That wouldn't be as valuable in the long term, but it would make the team much better for 2016, which has to be a priority given the current level of investment in the major league roster. Jokes about rebuilding are fun until the team falls a couple of wins short of a playoff spot, and with Arizona and San Francisco already improved over last year, the Dodgers need to do something -- probably two or three things -- to improve the roster for 2016.


Via Keith law

This post was edited by Profar on Dec 16 2015 06:52pm
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