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Jun 20 2012 11:54am
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He also is a boras client and expressed desire to play on the west coast. We will have him through his arb years before he signs an albatross contract with someone his FA year. There is no way we will have him 7 or even 5 more years, he even rejected renewals of his contract before his arb years....


Cuz he was being stubborn over incentives but I'm sure he's going to be more than willing 2 negotiate.
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Jun 20 2012 11:54am
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The Devil Wears Prado

I love him.


So glad we didn't trade him to the Rockies for smith and Blackmon/wheeler lol
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Jun 20 2012 11:56am
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Cuz he was being stubborn over incentives but I'm sure he's going to be more than willing 2 negotiate.


That makes absolutely no sense, no way in hell Boras lets him sign an extension, he is going to get 17+ million a year easy in free agency, no way braves can even come close to matching that.
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Jun 20 2012 12:02pm
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That makes absolutely no sense, no way in hell Boras lets him sign an extension, he is going to get 17+ million a year easy in free agency, no way braves can even come close to matching that.


Using the Albanese-Ceasars model and the SBObet models he's statistically not worth 17+ "easily"

+ don't be so pessimistic about retaining him plz

This post was edited by Prteam on Jun 20 2012 12:05pm
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Jun 20 2012 12:08pm
Lollllll

Has there even been a ground ball yet or a single of any kind?

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Jun 20 2012 12:11pm
Quote (Prteam @ Jun 20 2012 01:02pm)
Using the Albanese-Ceasars model and the SBObet models he's statistically not worth 17+ "easily"

+ don't be so pessimistic about retaining him plz


Lol you are making th mistake of assuming that just because he is worth it the braves will pay it. If a guy is so stubborn about a few thousand, what makes you think he will have a change of heart when it comes to several million. I'm not a pessimist, I am a realist. It wouldn't make sense to pay that much especially when you have guys like Teheran that can pitch for league minimum

And they are never worth it, people just overpay in FA because they can, it isn't an efficient way to run a franchise

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Jun 20 2012 12:14pm
Quote (austinhb @ Jun 20 2012 01:11pm)
Lol you are making th mistake of assuming that just because he is worth it the braves will pay it. If a guy is so stubborn about a few thousand, what makes you think he will have a change of heart when it comes to several million. I'm not a pessimist, I am a realist. It wouldn't make sense to pay that much especially when you have guys like Teheran that can pitch for league minimum


Well whenever I hear anyone talking about Boras driving kids to free agency I always refer to Ajones who signed an extension against Boras's wishes (I think). Btw. those contract incentives can amount to millions I wish I had the inside scoop on them vrs rumors =/

Honestly What's a couple million to billionaires?
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Jun 20 2012 12:16pm
Quote (austinhb @ Jun 20 2012 01:11pm)
Lol you are making th mistake of assuming that just because he is worth it the braves will pay it. If a guy is so stubborn about a few thousand, what makes you think he will have a change of heart when it comes to several million. I'm not a pessimist, I am a realist. It wouldn't make sense to pay that much especially when you have guys like Teheran that can pitch for league minimum

And they are never worth it, people just overpay in FA because they can, it isn't an efficient way to run a franchise



There's a lot of analysis that goes into pricing contracts. They have scores of mathematicians that put models together to determine who's going where. It's only an efficient way to run a franchise if you're the yankees.
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Jun 20 2012 12:16pm
Quote (Prteam @ Jun 20 2012 01:14pm)
Well whenever I hear anyone talking about Boras driving kids to free agency I always refer to Ajones who signed an extension against Boras's wishes (I think). Btw. those contract incentives can amount to millions I wish I had the inside scoop on them vrs rumors =/

Honestly What's a couple million to billionaires?


A lot because liberty media set a strict budget and really don't care about the braves. Difference is Adam jones is still getting like 16 million a year and he actually wanted to be in Baltimore.
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Jun 20 2012 12:17pm
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A lot because liberty media set a strict budget and really don't care about the braves. Difference is Adam jones is still getting like 16 million a year and he actually wanted to be in Baltimore.


I was talking about Andruw Jones but still...
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