would probably take a lot more honestly. and he is going to make a lot of money in the next few years, not to mention he is a headcase and wouldn't mesh with Uggla and Gonzalez

and we said we aren't trading JJ within the division

a realistic package would probably be something like

Teheran, Minor, Betanchourt, Vizcaino and Beachy or Hanson

exactly how I feel

same here, I feel like a broken record saying we shouldn't trade Prado especially since he is more valuable to us than anyone else, and We should wait for the right haul for Jurrjens, because our depth could turn into non depth if Hanson's shoulder is still messed up or Hudson isn't completely recovered from surgery by spring training... then if we didn't have Jurrjens we would have 5 people in the rotation who have never thrown over 150 Innings:

Beachy
Minor
Teheran
Delgado
Medlen

http://www.camdencrazies.com/2011-articles/december/the-orioles-decline-to-trade-adam-jones-for-jurrjens-prado-a-a-prospect.html

great blog and my exact thoughts of why I didn't want to do the trade.
Couldn't have written a better article myself

We didn't offer that, your press is lying just to hype up the orioles fans.

maybe YOUR press is lying KID.

I really doubt the trade talks went that far though. Heyman been blowing smoke up everyones asses for 2 weeks on this trade.
Then Crasnick decided to jump in and blow some more smoke.

But i do think both teams talked, and The Orioles would certainly listen on Jones (they would deny it to the public though)
and Jurrjens and Prado are probably expendable for you guys depending on the return

I think Krasnik or whoever had it the most accurate, the Braves asked if he was available, the O's said no, then there were no more discussions, maybe Duquette called wren back and told him that, but probably not.

Not as expendable as everyone thinks, there are several rotation uncertainties and Prado is the only guy on our team who can back up Chipper and we can count on to play almost every day.

I am really perplexed by the payroll issue, and shed 5 Mill from Lowe, we shed KK and McLouth. I know that there are arb raises and such, but I also thought we were suppose to have a bump in payroll from everything we are told. I dont get how we can never seem to have money to spend. — Mike

I can understand why it’s perplexing that the Braves have so little to spend again.

But you noted how Braves shed Lowe, Kawakami and McLouth. Well, think of it this way: McLouth had a $6.5 mill salary last season, and Bourn is going to make more than that in ‘12, probably go from $4.4 mill last year to around $7 mill in arb for ‘12. So that’s a wash.

Then there’s the approx. $12 mill the Braves shed with KK and Lowe ($5 mill of Lowe’s $15 mill contract is all they saved, paying the rest).

McCann gets a $5 mill raise, from $6.5 mill in ‘11 to $11.5 mill in ‘12 including the maxed-out $3 mill in escalator clauses triggered by his All-Star appearances and Silver Slugger awards. Uggla has a $4 million raise in 2012, because his contract included a salary of $9 mill in ‘11 and then four straight years at $13 mill, plus the $1 mill signing bonus that’s spread over five years ($200,000 each year for accounting purposes).

McCann and Uggla will make $9 million more, which you could think of as wiping out all but $2 mill of the money shed with Lowe and Kawakami being gone.

Then you start getting into the amounts shed by not brinking back Linebrink (only $2 mill, because White Sox paid rest of his salary), Moylan (though they might end up bringing back Moylan at or below the $2 mill he made last year) and Sherrill ($1.2 mill), you’re looking at saving about $5 mill, or only about $3 mill if Moylan is brought back.

Take into account the arb raises also going to O’Flaherty and whomever is kept among Prado and Jurrjens, and you’re really actually back at about even again, in terms of the money saved by getting rid of the players they aren’t bringing back.

So you can see where they’d need to move someone to free up money if they’re going to add a player making $5 mill or so, unless the payroll is being raised more than just a little bump of a couple million bucks (and we don’t even know if that’ll happen).

We didn’t even get into the small raises that go to the under-3 guys, raises that will be a little bigger than usual for Kimbrel (All-Star, ROY) and probably Freeman (ROY runner-up).