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Aug 17 2015 09:35pm
Quote (Tribeca @ Aug 17 2015 10:02pm)
rodney and lloyd need to be gone and the end of this road stand


but he shoots invisible arrows
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Aug 17 2015 10:56pm
Quote (MilkMaid @ Aug 17 2015 08:01pm)
What the fuck!
How many times does it take before he's gone?
Does he have something in his contract that keeps them from doing anything against him?


Lloyd just doesn't learn. ..
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Aug 18 2015 03:49am
Statistically speaking, in 2014 Seattle had the best pitching in the american league.

What exactly happened?

It's not like there have been a bunch of movement in our bullpen, our starting rotation is nearly identical.

For the record in 2015 Mariners are 4th from last in pitching.
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Aug 18 2015 04:02am
Regarding Fernando Rodney I'm gonna copy and paste something I read elsewhere.

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It's obvious he isn't anywhere near his level of last year but people keep saying he's responsible for a ton of losses. I looked at the game log and tried to figure out exactly how much of them he can logically be blamed for.
Losses in which Rodney has pitched in: 21
Losses in which Rodney has given up a hit: 13
Losses in which Rodney has given up a run: 9
The scores of these 9 games:
6-5
2-1 (I don't think he can be blamed if the M's can only score a single run)
5-3
1-0 (M's couldn't score at all so it's really not his fault)
10-3 (Gave up only one run, had no effect on the outcome)
2-1 (Same as before)
8-6
7-5
4-3
So that leaves 5 games I think he can logically be held responsible for, just based on performance. If you want to assign him blame for the rushing of Carson into the role, then that's harder to extrapolate from. I might be missing something with the math and data so lemme know what you think.
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Aug 18 2015 04:09pm
Quote (gskellig @ Aug 18 2015 03:02am)
Regarding Fernando Rodney I'm gonna copy and paste something I read elsewhere.


wait... so him not doing his job is not his fault because the offense could not do their job, but thats their fault?
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Aug 18 2015 05:09pm
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Aug 18 2015 02:09pm)
wait... so him not doing his job is not his fault because the offense could not do their job, but thats their fault?


it's your fault because it's not my your job his
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Aug 20 2015 04:31pm
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Aug 18 2015 03:09pm)
wait... so him not doing his job is not his fault because the offense could not do their job, but thats their fault?


No I'm just saying I don't think he's doing quite as bad as people think he is. If Tom Wilhelmsen had a bunch of good outings then 3 or 4 one run mishaps people wouldn't be as mad. People love Tom Wilhelmsen because he dances during batting practice and wears his hat properly.

To be honest people gave him a lot of shit last year and I think he was an incredible closer in 2014.

Also, all of this doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have Carson Smith or even Wilhelmsen closing until Rodney gets his shit figured out, cuz I do.

This post was edited by gskellig on Aug 20 2015 04:33pm
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Aug 20 2015 04:48pm
i used to view rodney as a elite pitcher. i dont know what it is lately. but hes horrible.
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Aug 20 2015 06:23pm
Quote (bbanee @ Aug 20 2015 03:48pm)
i used to view rodney as a elite pitcher. i dont know what it is lately. but hes horrible.


He is old, lost speed and ball control. And supposedly he is tipping his pitches
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Aug 20 2015 06:52pm
Quote (Tribeca @ Aug 20 2015 05:23pm)
He is old, lost speed and ball control. And supposedly he is tipping his pitches


The speed is still there

He just cant throw a fuckin strike
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