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Jul 28 2015 09:01am
Dont love this trade for the Jays. I really really liked Hoffman and think it's quite a lot to trade for what's probably a 2-3 win upgrade at SS. They're also taking on a backloaded contract that will pay Tulo until he's 35. On top of that they'll now be forced to incluse Norris and Sanchez in any deal for a pitcher while their value is at its lowest.
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Jul 28 2015 09:08am
Quote (HIROK @ Jul 28 2015 10:01am)
Dont love this trade for the Jays. I really really liked Hoffman and think it's quite a lot to trade for what's probably a 2-3 win upgrade at SS. They're also taking on a backloaded contract that will pay Tulo until he's 35. On top of that they'll now be forced to incluse Norris and Sanchez in any deal for a pitcher while their value is at its lowest.


How is it back loaded? He makes 20 million per season and then 14 mil in the last year before a buyout. It's even all the way through.

E: they were already paying Reyes until he was 35, and that guy only has value from speed. Speed dies faster than power

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Jul 28 2015 09:14am
Quote (HIROK @ Jul 28 2015 10:01am)
Dont love this trade for the Jays. I really really liked Hoffman and think it's quite a lot to trade for what's probably a 2-3 win upgrade at SS. They're also taking on a backloaded contract that will pay Tulo until he's 35. On top of that they'll now be forced to incluse Norris and Sanchez in any deal for a pitcher while their value is at its lowest.


They aren't really taking on a backloaded contract; they're just taking on an additional 4 years. Tulo and Reyes will make about the same through 2017 (when Reyes is a free agent) - Tulo 20mil/per year, Reyes 22 per year

Tulo's contract is pretty good actually and gets even less in 2020 (14mil) (of course his production may drop as well)

With that said, I agree I wouldn't like it if I were a jays fan. It solved no issues whatsoever. Sure the offense and defense got better; but come playoff time you can't rely on scoring 5+ runs against playoff caliber teams when teams aren't pitching there shitty 3-5's SP's.

And to give up Hoffman is a TON as I've said before.

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Jul 28 2015 09:31am
Quote (HIROK @ Jul 28 2015 11:01am)
Dont love this trade for the Jays. I really really liked Hoffman and think it's quite a lot to trade for what's probably a 2-3 win upgrade at SS. They're also taking on a backloaded contract that will pay Tulo until he's 35. On top of that they'll now be forced to incluse Norris and Sanchez in any deal for a pitcher while their value is at its lowest.



Yeah but that 3 win upgrade will be there for a few years.

Now they have a legit SS for the next 3 years. Maybe even 5 if Tulo stays healthy.
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Jul 28 2015 09:40am
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Yeah but that 3 win upgrade will be there for a few years.

Now they have a legit SS for the next 3 years. Maybe even 5 if Tulo stays healthy.


This.
AND a SS who isn't overpaid.
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Jul 28 2015 09:54am
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This.
AND a SS who isn't overpaid.


Unless you pick up a quality SP, you upgraded the one area in which they didn't need help. Plain dumb, considering his injury history.
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Jul 28 2015 09:56am
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Jul 28 2015 10:09am
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Unless you pick up a quality SP, you upgraded the one area in which they didn't need help. Plain dumb, considering his injury history.


We coming for you yankees
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Quote (Moofy @ Jul 28 2015 04:09pm)
We coming for you yankees


With a pitching staff as scary as a litter of newborn kittens.
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Jul 28 2015 10:37am
Rumors are the tulo didn't want to come to the Mets, and that's why a deal with us didn't happen


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