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May 23 2019 02:24pm
Quote (Scrotie @ May 23 2019 04:08pm)
Looking at the box score =/= watching it unfold live, the box score makes it look bad (3 walks & 1 hit), but it was anything but.

He struck out the first 2 batters with relative ease (albeit on 3-2 counts), but made Gardner & Maybin look foolish.

Next up Torres ended up walking, but pitch 6 of the at-bat (ball 3 to make it 3-2) was right there, strike 3 looking.

Sanchez singled next, and everything collapsed from that point, though he even had a close 3rd strike on Lemahieu that would of again ended the inning.

The umpire clearly blew the call, but even still, Givens has to come back and get out of it as a major league pitcher.


I watched it bro lol he threw like 2 strikes and 8 balls to the last 2 abs. Could have easily gotten out of that 1 and 2 2 outs. He totally fucked the game up. Couldn't throw a strike.
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May 23 2019 02:40pm
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I watched it bro lol he threw like 2 strikes and 8 balls to the last 2 abs. Could have easily gotten out of that 1 and 2 2 outs. He totally fucked the game up. Couldn't throw a strike.


What your not grasping is the fact he shouldn't have had to see those batters to begin with.

It was a 2-2 count with 2 outs and he struck out Torres looking, the ball was literally right down the middle, and the ump missed the call.

And even after loading the bases, he had another vs Lemahieu or Hicks, where he had a 3rd strike looking but it wasn't called.

At that point he has thrown 30 pitches (should of been out of the inning on his 17th), and throws the 31st for a ball on a 3-2 count to push the run across.


Edit- You say he couldn't throw a strike but he struck out the first 2 batters, and essentially struck out the 3rd if not for shit umpiring, Also 10 of those first 17 pitches were for strikes (which is where the inning should have ended).

This post was edited by Scrotie on May 23 2019 02:44pm
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What your not grasping is the fact he shouldn't have had to see those batters to begin with.

It was a 2-2 count with 2 outs and he struck out Torres looking, the ball was literally right down the middle, and the ump missed the call.

And even after loading the bases, he had another vs Lemahieu or Hicks, where he had a 3rd strike looking but it wasn't called.

At that point he has thrown 30 pitches (should of been out of the inning on his 17th), and throws the 31st for a ball on a 3-2 count to push the run across.


Dude c'mon you arguing over borderline pitches, he still pitched God damn awful and he had ample opportunity to get batters out.
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May 23 2019 02:52pm
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Dude c'mon you arguing over borderline pitches, he still pitched God damn awful and he had ample opportunity to get batters out.


Borderline pitch? Clearly shows you didn't watch the game if you think the 3rd strike on Torres was "borderline".

Inning should of been over there, and who knows what happens the rest of the game, but bad umpiring should never determine the outcome of a game.

And I'll agree Givens didn't look good today, but he should of been out of the inning after Torres, then he allows a hit & 4 pitch walk, but strikes out the next guy and it's not called (though that was more borderline).
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May 23 2019 02:59pm
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Borderline pitch? Clearly shows you didn't watch the game if you think the 3rd strike on Torres was "borderline".

Inning should of been over there, and who knows what happens the rest of the game, but bad umpiring should never determine the outcome of a game.

And I'll agree Givens didn't look good today, but he should of been out of the inning after Torres, then he allows a hit & 4 pitch walk, but strikes out the next guy and it's not called (though that was more borderline).


My whole point was he blew the game , regardless if that pitch is called a strike or not. Runner on 1st and 2 out. YOUR not understanding that call dint determine the result of the game. HE choked and blew the game. And I was referring to the last 2 batters he couldn't throw a strike and walked in the run
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May 23 2019 03:26pm
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My whole point was he blew the game , regardless if that pitch is called a strike or not. Runner on 1st and 2 out. YOUR not understanding that call dint determine the result of the game. HE choked and blew the game. And I was referring to the last 2 batters he couldn't throw a strike and walked in the run


Bases were empty, 2 outs 2-2 count when the 3rd strike (which wasn't borderline) was missed, how can you blow a game when the inning should of been over?

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything, but if you strike out 3 straight batters, the inning is over. It doesn't matter what happens after that, the umpire blew the call and in result the game.

And if that's not bad enough, after that call, he did allow a hit & walk to load the bases, but essentially struck out a 4th batter which would of ended the inning again and it was missed.

You say he couldn't throw a strike to the last 2 batters, but he struck out the last batter, but it was ALSO missed, which resulted in the game winning run.
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May 23 2019 03:28pm
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Bases were empty, 2 outs 2-2 count when the 3rd strike (which wasn't borderline) was missed, how can you blow a game when the inning should of been over?

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything, but if you strike out 3 straight batters, the inning is over. It doesn't matter what happens after that, the umpire blew the call and in result the game.

And if that's not bad enough, after that call, he did allow a hit & walk to load the bases, but essentially struck out a 4th batter which would of ended the inning again and it was missed.

You say he couldn't throw a strike to the last 2 batters, but he struck out the last batter, but it was ALSO missed, which resulted in the game winning run.


Lmao nvm bro. Ur gonna keep dwelling on that one fact. Kkke get over it,call wasn't made. Could have got out of the inning on 3 more batters he did not. Suck it up you lost. Feel lucky you even had a sniff at winning this game.
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May 23 2019 03:32pm
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Lmao nvm bro. Ur gonna keep dwelling on that one fact. Kkke get over it,call wasn't made. Could have got out of the inning on 3 more batters he did not. Suck it up you lost. Feel lucky you even had a sniff at winning this game.


You can't take the fact your team won with the aid of umpires, and you're ignorant enough to believe your own nonsense lol.

I know my team sucks, doesn't change the fact the Yankees got aid from the umpires to win this one.
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