single-season hr, sans steroids

It's impossible to compare different baseball era's.. back then nobody went to the bullpen and rarely anyone threw 100mph.. now you have starters barely going 6 and 75% of baseball throws 95+.

How do you know, definitively, that he wasn't using steroids?
Not like that year wasn't a massive outlier in his career.

Cause his nuts weren't shrunken

Yeah, I tend to agree /w that argument among most sports and their major records/players, but if a modern player who doesn't juice is going to compare himself to another player, it seems like the best of the bunch who aren't believed to have been juicing (in this case, Maris) should be the standard of comparison. Breaking the likes of Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa just doesn't seem possible without steroids (or some other rule changes like a longer season). Given that steroids have been banned, the avenue to break the record set by Bonds is now virtually closed off.

If you're just going by era, then how do you demarcate when one era ends and another begins? Who is your standard in each arbitrary era? It gets too vague for me. Maris is the best of the non-juicers, and that should be your standard, even if other factors regarding the league rules make this standard unattainable.



You cannot know for sure. Steroid use was pretty new at the time, but it's still possible.

Even being an outlier in his career, are you suggesting that the 61 hr year was the only year he was juicing? Because it seems to me he would have done steroids the previous year when he hit 39 and in the following years when he was average, yet the stats didn't come. Why would he stop juicing? And if he kept juicing, then why would the stats just fall off?

This thread is a cesspool

Today's game is completely different than say the deadball era, ruth era, pitcher era, then when they lowered the mound in the 1960's, then it became the steroid/strikeout era 30 years later, and now it's a pitcher dominant league with more technology and knowledge about hitters weaknesses and hitters having to face 3 sometimes 4 different pitchers in 1 game who are all throwing harder then ever.

I play replays from random years in my APBA game and it's sickening to see just about every hitter strike out less than 50 times and walk more than they struck out. Unheard of in today's game.


Which should bring up the next question; should they lower the mound again to increase hitting? I'd be in favor.

This post was edited by Schwarber on Nov 26 2015 08:53am

Wouldn't Griffey be your standard for non juicers? Especially considering he did what he did while surrounded by roided up hitters. If it wasn't for injuries who knows how many HRs he would have hit.

Keep mound the same.
Use Japanese baseballs.