Quote (Genetics @ Nov 20 2015 02:13pm)

are these 2 guys seriously trying to claim harper isnt deserving of the award because the rest of his team fell flat on its face and his manager is one of the all time worst?

so because harper couldnt keep strasburg, rendon, and span healthy, teach his bullpen how to not blow a shitload of leads, get fister to pitch right, and not allow desmond to have his worst season to date, hes not deserving of the MVP?


he did everything in his power and more to unanimously win that award, and anyone who thinks otherwise probably values RBI for batters and wins for pitchers more than anything else.

Quote (xVitality @ Nov 20 2015 06:51am)

How am I supposed to prove your misunderstanding of the award wrong?

Arrieta: 8.7 WAR, 3,630,000 salary
Bryce Harper: 9.9 WAR, 2,500,000 salary

Harper provided 1.2 more Wins than Arrieta AND was paid less per win.

Harper is more valuable than Arrieta in every sense. Just because Washington didn't make the playoffs doesn't diminish his value. You're basically saying every player on teams that don't make the playoffs is worthless. Which is fucking stupid.

You're also have no idea what would of happened if Arrieta didn't pitch out of his mind in the 2nd half. How can we assume that whoever pitched in his place wouldn't have allowed the Cubs to win those games? Maybe their ERA wouldn't have been 1.5, but who says it needs to be for the Cubs to win all those games? Maybe Chicago had Bostons version of Rich Hill in their system. Nobody knows and will never know. Doesn't make 90% of all players worthless because they don't make the playoffs...

Quote (xVitality @ Nov 20 2015 12:00pm)

Harper was also a top tier defensive player.
Most valuable = best player.

Quote (Genetics @ Nov 20 2015 02:13pm)

are these 2 guys seriously trying to claim harper isnt deserving of the award because the rest of his team fell flat on its face and his manager is one of the all time worst?

so because harper couldnt keep strasburg, rendon, and span healthy, teach his bullpen how to not blow a shitload of leads, get fister to pitch right, and not allow desmond to have his worst season to date, hes not deserving of the MVP?


he did everything in his power and more to unanimously win that award, and anyone who thinks otherwise probably values RBI for batters and wins for pitchers more than anything else.

Quote (cSwish @ Nov 20 2015 04:24pm)

you're gonna take that dumbass poster title very quickly. keep it up!/QUOTE]

very highly unlikely

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#1. Bryce Harper, OF, Washington

Harper’s been the best player in baseball this year, carrying a team that was a dumpster fire nearly everywhere except right field. The team was a disappointment, and won’t be playing in October, but that’s in spite of Harper’s efforts to make up for the uninspired play of his teammates, not because of it. And yes, I believe there is value in every win, even ones that don’t result in a playoff berth. This is an individual award, and no individual stood out more in 2015 than Harper. I’m sure he’d much rather have had a winning season, but he played like a winner this year, and deserves recognition for his own achievements.

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you're gonna take that dumbass poster title very quickly. keep it up!

Quote (HIROK @ Nov 20 2015 04:50pm)

lol @ cubs fans