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Jul 18 2015 12:41pm
Quote (ppkpkppk @ Jul 18 2015 06:20pm)
Oh yea, 4 years as the best in the game is really short. Only 2 years less than LeBron.
2 seasons which are in the top 50 seasons ever (in a sport thats been around for 130 years), another season that is top 250.



You're kidding right? You do know that injuries are a part of baseball no matter who you are, except for Ripken.. Pujols was on pace to be the best hitter ever and break the home run record, and then injuries took over. These things happen and no 4 years is definitely not enough time.
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Jul 18 2015 01:09pm
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You're kidding right? You do know that injuries are a part of baseball no matter who you are, except for Ripken.. Pujols was on pace to be the best hitter ever and break the home run record, and then injuries took over. These things happen and no 4 years is definitely not enough time.


Pujols was not on pace for being the best hitter ever.
This is not only on extrapolation but on the production he has already had.

Based on WAR,
By age, Trout was the best ever through his 21 year old season, 22 year old season, and as long as he can manage 23 games worth of similar production over the next 73 games, will be THE best ever through his age 23 season. No player from our lifetime is in the top 5 for any of those.

Now forget about age, talking peaks or whatever.
Only 11 players in the history of baseball have had 3 consecutive seasons better than Trout at any point in their careers and only 5 more have had 3 seasons at any point in their careers which were better than Trout's first 3 full seasons.

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Jul 18 2015 01:12pm
Leo Messi should be in this discussion as well. But I agree with Tek actually. I think Willie Mays is the greatest to ever play the game (hommers?) [5 tool player, amazing for 20 years] and Trout is Willie Mays reborn, except maybe even better.
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Jul 18 2015 01:15pm
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Leo Messi should be in this discussion as well. But I agree with Tek actually. I think Willie Mays is the greatest to ever play the game (hommers?) [5 tool player, amazing for 20 years] and Trout is Willie Mays reborn, except maybe even better.


Hommer.
But yea, whats really interesting is when you think of Trout and Harper vs. Mays and Mantle. (In that order Trout to Mays as Harper is to Mantle)
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Jul 18 2015 01:18pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Jul 18 2015 12:12pm)
Leo Messi should be in this discussion as well. But I agree with Tek actually. I think Willie Mays is the greatest to ever play the game (hommers?) [5 tool player, amazing for 20 years] and Trout is Willie Mays reborn, except maybe even better.


I love the Giants but I harry Barry Bonds.
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Jul 18 2015 01:19pm
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I love the Giants but I harry Barry Bonds.


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Jul 18 2015 01:20pm
Bonds/Ruth
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Jul 18 2015 01:24pm
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Bonds/Ruth


If baseball got its head out of its ass 100 years ago and there was a DH, Ruth would have been unreachable. He could have pitched every 5th day and DH'd the other 4 days or whatever. Would be a hall of fame caliber pitcher on top of being the best hitter ever.


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Jul 18 2015 01:27pm
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If baseball got its head out of its ass 100 years ago and there was a DH, Ruth would have been unreachable. He could have pitched every 5th day and DH'd the other 4 days or whatever. Would be a hall of fame caliber pitcher on top of being the best hitter ever.


Yeah people tend to forget very easily how much of a beast pitcher he was, and a guy who can the ball 500 ft over 700 times is truly the best player to ever play the game.
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Jul 18 2015 01:31pm
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Yeah people tend to forget very easily how much of a beast pitcher he was, and a guy who can the ball 500 ft over 700 times is truly the best player to ever play the game.


only choo can the ball 500 ft
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