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what?


http://steroids-and-baseball.com/

Read it and weep.
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don't feel like reading that whole thing right now (though I may read it later) but there is no debate around the fact that steroids help you recover from day to day injuries a lot faster. to measure a steroid user's numbers against someone who is clean is silly. but it's also silly to ignore the numbers they are putting up. Power or not steroids definitely don't help with your ability to have contact with the ball.

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don't feel like reading that whole thing right now (though I may read it later) but there is no debate around the fact that steroids help you recover from day to day injuries a lot faster. to measure a steroid user's numbers against someone who is clean is silly.


youre silly
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don't feel like reading that whole thing right now (though I may read it later) but there is no debate around the fact that steroids help you recover from day to day injuries a lot faster. to measure a steroid user's numbers against someone who is clean is silly.


I think I read it before, but Idr..

Does it explain the huge offensive boom we had in the 90s-early 00s?
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youre silly


your mom's silly
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your mom's silly


my mom owns silly
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I think I read it before, but Idr..

Does it explain the huge offensive boom we had in the 90s-early 00s?


I'm assuming it attempts to explain this graph:



and this one:



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Sim, there is no denying that pure skill is needed to do anything close to what Bonds, and probably Alex, are going to do.
But, steroids do overall make you stronger and faster..

So, lets be real, Barry wouldn't even touch 73HRS without roids.
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Sim, there is no denying that pure skill is needed to do anything close to what Bonds, and probably Alex, are going to do.
But, steroids do overall make you stronger and faster..

So, lets be real, Barry wouldn't even touch 73HRS without roids.


Josh Gibson did.

But weaker league, etc.
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Quote (jaquenot @ Apr 23 2012 04:10pm)
Sim, there is no denying that pure skill is needed to do anything close to what Bonds, and probably Alex, are going to do.
But, steroids do overall make you stronger and faster..

So, lets be real, Barry wouldn't even touch 73HRS without roids.


my created player in 2k11 hit 91 HRs in a season

are you saying he did steroids
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