Lol I know what you meant, It's crazy how many top guys have flopped in Seattle (Recent years). Smoak,Montero,Ackley
Just some tough luck? or bad scouting?

Everyone seems to be attributing this to come up to early/young/unprepared. Personally I do not buy this philosophy. If a player is expected to be a major leaguer at the caliber some of these guys are expected. What good does sitting in Tacoma, falsifying numbers.

If they are intended to learn there, they can learn just as well here. Definitely won't hurt us as a team offensively. Shit, playing the Asstros so much is like playing a minor league team.

I would say the problem is contrasting philosophies on each level of the organization, coaches not teaching the same thing, basically not all on the same page.

Being in Tacoma can make it so you can learn in a low pressure environment. That way you can try new things without worrying about screwing up the big leagues.



It could be many things, it could be they are late bloomers like Chris Davis and Dominic Brown. Or it could be bad luck that they flopped, it could be bad upbringing, though Kyle seagar did fine. People are just making too big of a deal on this, most of the players are really young still. I think it gets presented as a bigger problem than it is because of the large number of prospects we have compared to other teams.

This post was edited by suhduelerz on Jun 12 2013 01:03pm

This is why I am saying it is a coaching issue, if they are not comfortable with losing/failing, no wonder practically everyone on the team is terrible.

Regardless of coaching, it still has less pressure in AAA than the majors...No matter what team you play for.

Kelly Shoppach gone...Picked up an ancient guy who can't hit or play defense. This makes no sense at all. Prior to this I thought Jack Z was slightly intelligent, now I have no more faith that they know anything about baseball. Looks like Mike Zunino is here to stay, whether he is ready or not. Good luck kid. The M's may have just fucked your future.

I don't understand at all..........................................................................

Maybe he is paying us to play? Or we get a tax break?

Though he is probably just filling a spot until Sucre is healthy, probably dfa'd after that

Even still, why cut Shoppach? We have to pay him regardless. If they think Zunino will be the everyday player, why not just keep Shoppach there for backup duties?