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Apr 3 2015 11:37am
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Apr 2 2015 10:06pm)
statistically?

3.5 ERA, 200+ IP, 150 K's, 65ish BB.
gonna have a lot of QS, a few CG

i expect a lot of the same from last season out of him, pretty similar numbers.
he will get a lot of W's too, 15+

one thing i think will be an improvement, i dont think he will give up more than 20 HRs this season, and not as many hits, so his whip will be like 1.1ish
those are my hopes for him this year.


id guess like a 3.7-8 era, 1.20 whip.

6k/9, maybe 15 wins
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Apr 3 2015 02:08pm
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Apr 2 2015 09:06pm)
statistically?
3.5 ERA, 200+ IP, 150 K's, 65ish BB.
gonna have a lot of QS, a few CG

i expect a lot of the same from last season out of him, pretty similar numbers.
he will get a lot of W's too, 15+

one thing i think will be an improvement, i dont think he will give up more than 20 HRs this season, and not as many hits, so his whip will be like 1.1ish
those are my hopes for him this year.


That seems reasonable for a homeristic view point, I think that might be his ceiling at this point with an expected for me at 3.7-3.9 era and a floor of 4.5 era.
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With Hamilton, the Angels got it done in a manner no other team, especially his most recent one, would. In the process, they took a sizable risk on a gifted outfielder with a checkered past, signing the former MVP to a five-year, $125 million contract that is back-loaded, includes a full no-trade clause and offers no special language that protects the Angels in case of a relapse.


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hamilton being in the LA area with $125mm, how could he possibly relapse?..


.....fffuuuu-


i liked this signing because of his promise, but i knew no relapse protection was a fucking terrible idea, even then.
and here we are.

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While the relationship between Josh Hamilton and the Angels seems strained at best, the two sides “like it or not…are stuck with each other,” ESPN’s Buster Olney writes in his latest Insider-only piece. Hamilton’s big contract, lack of production and off-the-field issues make him virtually impossible to trade, while Hamilton will likely have to accept a reduced role when he returns to the club.


angels shot themselves in the foot with no contingency plan if he started using again.
basically a-rod 2.0
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Apr 5 2015 01:32am
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Apr 4 2015 06:41pm)
i liked this signing because of his promise, but i knew no relapse protection was a fucking terrible idea, even then.
and here we are.



angels shot themselves in the foot with no contingency plan if he started using again.
basically a-rod 2.0


Amen dude. I remember not being a fan of his contract since day 1; due to his history of several previous relapses. Drug addictions aren't an easy thing to overcome as is, and living in LA with 125m$ doesn't help either lol. Sucks for sure tho..
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Apr 6 2015 03:00pm
Good god weaver is so bad!
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Apr 7 2015 07:04pm
Welp, Weaver looked awful yesterday.. Hope that's not a sign of things to come.

And with the way Wilson has been shittastic lately, tonight may be round #2 :mellow:
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Apr 10 2015 09:19pm
Angels might have recourse with hamilton.

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ANAHEIM -- Angels owner Arte Moreno said prior to Friday's home opener that Josh Hamilton's contract contains specific language which gives the team recourse in the event of an alcohol- or drug-related relapse. Moreno didn't go into specifics as to what that recourse would entail, but did hint that the team is pursuing action against its high-priced outfielder, who had a drug-related relapse late in the offseason and has been rehabbing from shoulder surgery since.

Seven days ago, an arbitrator ruled that Hamilton did not violate the terms of his treatment program, leaving Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred without any power to levy a suspension. The decision noticeably upset the Angels, with president John Carpino saying in a statement that it "defies logic" and general manager Jerry Dipoto expressing the club's "disappointment" in Hamilton.
The Angels caught a lot of heat for the tone of those comments, but Moreno said the club's disappointment wasn't related to not getting the salary relief that would come from a suspension.
"It's not about money," Moreno said. "Nothing about money."
Hamilton hasn't been with the team all year. He didn't have a locker at the Angels' Spring Training facility and doesn't have one at Angel Stadium, either. Asked if he could say Hamilton will play a game for the Angels this season, Moreno said, "I will not say that."
A buyout or trade would be very difficult, given that Hamilton -- turning 34 in May, recovering from surgery to his right A.C. joint on Feb. 4 and coming off two unproductive seasons -- is owed $83 million over the next three years and has a full no-trade clause.
All Major League Baseball contracts are guaranteed, and normally teams aren't allowed to include additional language that protects them against using drugs of abuse or performance-enhancing substance. That's what the Joint Drug Agreement is intended to govern.
Moreno said you can add additional language if all sides -- the player, his agents, MLB and the MLB Players Association -- agree, which he said was the case with Hamilton.
"We have a contract with Hamilton, and in that contract, there's specific language that he signed, and his agents approved, that said he cannot drink and use drugs," Moreno said. "... When we started talking to him, we went through his past history, and we thought it was important to have language in our agreement."
Moreno said the Angels "do have recourse" and "there's a possibility of pursuing it."
Moreno flew with Carpino to Texas in December 2012, and met with Hamilton, his wife and four daughters. Then the Angels signed him to a five-year, $125 million contract on Dec. 13.
"We talked about his history," Moreno said. "He gave us a book that he wrote ['Beyond Belief'] and signed one for each one of us. We had a great afternoon and spent a lot of time talking about where he had been and specifically what process he was going through with Texas and how we would be willing to have someone with him at all times, and what our expectations were going forward."
Moreno hasn't spoken to Hamilton at all this year. Asked why, Moreno said, "Probably disappointed. But I think more than anything, we look at accountability -- with all of our players."
"I think that's probably the biggest word here," Moreno added. "We understand that he's had struggles, and obviously he's still having struggles, but the reality is there's accountability. When you make an agreement, you need to stand up."


this, i did not know. god i hope so.
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Apr 10 2015 10:23pm
Wish the cowards would admit it's all about a salary dump, I could respect them if they'd be honest....you can smell the slime off the lies though
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Apr 10 2015 10:25pm
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Wish the cowards would admit it's all about a salary dump, I could respect them if they'd be honest....you can smell the slime off the lies though


how?
guy signed a contract, promised there would be no issues, even agreed to put it in the contract that there wouldnt be.
and he used again. its hamiltons fault, and problem. not the angels. covering their own ass is slime? lmfao, yankees wish they had this type of shit in their contract for a-rod. guaranteed.
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Apr 10 2015 11:10pm
Quote (FLCKennedy @ Apr 11 2015 12:25am)
how?
guy signed a contract, promised there would be no issues, even agreed to put it in the contract that there wouldnt be.
and he used again. its hamiltons fault, and problem. not the angels. covering their own ass is slime? lmfao, yankees wish they had this type of shit in their contract for a-rod. guaranteed.


They don't want to cut him because he had a relapse, they want to cut him because they don't want to be paying the large contract...

Any fool can see that


They have every right to back out because it was agreed upon , but they should be honest about their intent
The only reason they won't be honest is because it'd be corporate suicide

This post was edited by bitg_pj on Apr 10 2015 11:11pm
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