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Jul 17 2013 05:11pm
Quote (shay11 @ Jul 16 2013 01:16pm)
Weird, nothing ever goes wrong for the Jays.


The "top prospect" the Jays traded to the White Sox for him has become nothing at least. He's actually regressed.
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Jul 17 2013 05:37pm
Quote (Wine @ Jul 17 2013 09:54am)
Hi Moofs,

I would like to respond to your post.
First of all, I would not sell either Buerhellel or JJ. Especially JJ. If you look at the starting pitchers available in the free agent market in 2014...the best available guys: Garza + Lincecum. Those guys will likely not come for cheap either, especially if they have strong second halves; and as we have seen with Lincecum, they can be just as shit as either of those two guys you want out.
I hope we do give up prospects to make a push. Regardless of whether that push is for next year or the year after, I believe we have a 2-3 year window to have a good chance at the playoffs. We should take advantage of this opportunity instead of delving another few decades of mediocrity.

Bullpen:
Yes, it has been great. We are obviously going to regress however. It is inevitable we will see more hits given up...a lot more. I do like the core going forward though.

Position Players:
I would like to rid of JP, I personally think everyone else has performed as expected.

Starting Pitching:
You summed it up well. I am starting to become a believer in Rogers, he definitely is a serviceable pitcher long term. There has been shit thrown around about the Jays getting Garza. I hope that happens. Even though Garza becomes a free agent at the end of the year, I would like to give this team a glimmer of hope that they are playoff-capable for next year.
If we just 'unloaded' what will that be saying to the teammates who wanted to win this year? Bautista and Edwin will off-the-bat be upset and angry. That psychological stuff can backfire longterm.
Think about it.


I'm okay with keeping buerhle, but what's the point in keeping johnson when he will likely just walk this offseason and I don't see us resigning him.
I would also like to get Garza, but I don't understand the point in giving up prospects to rent a player for a few months (assuming we don't resign him), just to make a 'try' and make a push that likely won't happen

On another note, I would like to applaud our management for the contracts we have given EE and Bautista, we got 2-3 years with our core players left.. so I also hope we keep pushing and getting better
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Jul 17 2013 07:44pm
what prospects can we even deal? we only have two real ones and one has spent the entire season going backwards.
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Jul 17 2013 09:27pm
Quote (Moofy @ Jul 17 2013 07:37pm)
I'm okay with keeping buerhle, but what's the point in keeping johnson when he will likely just walk this offseason and I don't see us resigning him.
I would also like to get Garza, but I don't understand the point in giving up prospects to rent a player for a few months (assuming we don't resign him), just to make a 'try' and make a push that likely won't happen

On another note, I would like to applaud our management for the contracts we have given EE and Bautista, we got 2-3 years with our core players left.. so I also hope we keep pushing and getting better


I feel my last point covers all those questions - end the season on a high so baubau + EE don't cry.
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Jul 17 2013 10:19pm
We have the offense as long as they don't get injured
Just need some AL East worthy starting pitchers
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Jul 18 2013 05:28am
Quote (Caedus @ Jul 17 2013 07:11pm)
The "top prospect" the Jays traded to the White Sox for him has become nothing at least. He's actually regressed.


Nester Molina ..? He was considered top?
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Jul 18 2013 08:43am
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The "top prospect" the Jays traded to the White Sox for him has become nothing at least. He's actually regressed.


A lose-lose trade is a win for the Jays right now -- my point exactly :D
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any details yet?
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