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Jul 14 2013 10:19pm
Quote (Genetics @ 15 Jul 2013 00:16)
poor moop...

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they have a lot of potential for next season, cant wait
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Jul 15 2013 08:27am
Quote (chips456 @ Jul 14 2013 11:19pm)
they have a lot of potential for next season, cant wait


2014 is going to be the best season yet :)
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Jul 15 2013 01:48pm
Despite the horrible season, some good names came out for good jokes...my fave:

"Fister Looses Grip Early, Wang Shrinks from Occasion & Tigs Pull Out a Win"
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Jul 16 2013 09:45am
Santos was sitting high 80s in his relief appearance for Dunedin.....RIP
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Jul 16 2013 11:16am
Quote (Wine @ Jul 16 2013 10:45am)
Santos was sitting high 80s in his relief appearance for Dunedin.....RIP


Weird, nothing ever goes wrong for the Jays.
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Jul 16 2013 05:05pm
Just some thoughts that were running through my mind

I hate to be 'that' fan, but I'm already looking towards next season

Tbh I hope AA becomes a seller at the deadline, and doesn't give up prospects for a player to make a playoff push. I would like to see Johnson and Buerhle traded if possible, even though their value is pretty low atm, starting pitching always seem to be in high demand.

For next season:

Bullpen:
- Looks great, wouldn't really change too much here; there may be guys we need to re-sign, haven't really looked into that. I hope to keep the same core as this year.

Position Players:
- For the most part I'm all for not changing too much here. I would like (if Lawrie stays at 2B) the Jays to pick up a 3B slugger who can handle the hot corner, if there is someone available to sign or through a trade.
Outfield
- I'm okay with how it is with rajai/melky, rasmus and bautista atleast for another year while melky is still under contract
Infield
- Ideally I would like New 3B, Reyes at SS, Lawrie 2B and Edwin/Lind at 1B
Catcher
- oh lawd. Don't really know if we can do anything here. JPA has been outright awful at times, and honestly it's his defence that I dislike more than his hitting. A.J. Jimenez is a good looking catcher; so maybe we can ride with JPA for a few more years and see what happens then... It would be tough to pick up a premier catcher, but maybe we can pick up an average catcher and split the time 60/40 between them.
DH
- Lind/Edwin, nothing wrong here
Bench
- Bonerfaceshow has looked awful, don't see him being around next year
- I'm happy with izturis on the bench, he can play a variety of infield positions and his bat has been hot lately
- Thole? Meh, read above
- DeRosa, I like him; great clubhouse guy and has come up with some big hits
- Rajai, my nigga

Starting Pitching:
- This is where is gets interesting; I thought we solved this issue last offseason, but apparently not. There are definitely a lot of questions marks here. Assuming Buerhle and Johson are gone, then we have Dickey, Rogers(?) and... a whole lot of question marks. I'm okay with sticking with dickey (sounds funny), I'm sure he can't do much worse next season. Esmil has looking good as a starter but can he keep it up? Really sucks that Morrow has all these injury problems; I don't know if he'll become a solid #2 again... time will tell. The rest of the spots, who the fuck knows. With all the injuries, maybe someone will step up next season: Drabek, Hutchinson, Happ, McGowan (?), Nolin, Jenkins... who knows. I'm hopefully AA brings in 1-2 more starting pitchers who have proven themselves (preferably not proven in the NL, because that doesn't seem to mean much).

Management:
- Never liked Gibbons when they signed him back.. He's like a drunk uncle who owns a farm in Texas or something similar. Can't really put to much blame on him and I doubt AA would fire him after just one season so anyways...

I'm hopeful and confident AA will answer many of these questions, thanks for reading

Hi Wine.
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Jul 16 2013 06:42pm
im wondering if the idea with having lawrie at 2b means EE being at third base for good (or this season at least), that way melky can DH and take it easy on his legs while davis becomes full time left field

and ya this season is over, unless they go 45-23 the rest of the way which i highly doubt... and that's if 90 wins is enough. gibbons has to go, hes honestly fucking clueless, especially with the pitching staff. speaking of pitching, they can afford to try and get something for someone out of the bullpen, i think Oliver will be traded
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Jul 16 2013 07:17pm
WHAT

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Jul 16 2013 11:34pm
cecil and delabar so stronk

and man the ovation Rivera got when he entered the game gave me chills
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Jul 17 2013 07:54am
Quote (Moofy @ Jul 16 2013 07:05pm)
Just some thoughts that were running through my mind

I hate to be 'that' fan, but I'm already looking towards next season

Tbh I hope AA becomes a seller at the deadline, and doesn't give up prospects for a player to make a playoff push. I would like to see Johnson and Buerhle traded if possible, even though their value is pretty low atm, starting pitching always seem to be in high demand.

For next season:

Bullpen:
- Looks great, wouldn't really change too much here; there may be guys we need to re-sign, haven't really looked into that. I hope to keep the same core as this year.

Position Players:
- For the most part I'm all for not changing too much here. I would like (if Lawrie stays at 2B) the Jays to pick up a 3B slugger who can handle the hot corner, if there is someone available to sign or through a trade.
Outfield
- I'm okay with how it is with rajai/melky, rasmus and bautista atleast for another year while melky is still under contract
Infield
- Ideally I would like New 3B, Reyes at SS, Lawrie 2B and Edwin/Lind at 1B
Catcher
- oh lawd. Don't really know if we can do anything here. JPA has been outright awful at times, and honestly it's his defence that I dislike more than his hitting. A.J. Jimenez is a good looking catcher; so maybe we can ride with JPA for a few more years and see what happens then... It would be tough to pick up a premier catcher, but maybe we can pick up an average catcher and split the time 60/40 between them.
DH
- Lind/Edwin, nothing wrong here
Bench
- Bonerfaceshow has looked awful, don't see him being around next year
- I'm happy with izturis on the bench, he can play a variety of infield positions and his bat has been hot lately
- Thole? Meh, read above
- DeRosa, I like him; great clubhouse guy and has come up with some big hits
- Rajai, my nigga

Starting Pitching:
- This is where is gets interesting; I thought we solved this issue last offseason, but apparently not. There are definitely a lot of questions marks here. Assuming Buerhle and Johson are gone, then we have Dickey, Rogers(?) and... a whole lot of question marks. I'm okay with sticking with dickey (sounds funny), I'm sure he can't do much worse next season. Esmil has looking good as a starter but can he keep it up? Really sucks that Morrow has all these injury problems; I don't know if he'll become a solid #2 again... time will tell. The rest of the spots, who the fuck knows. With all the injuries, maybe someone will step up next season: Drabek, Hutchinson, Happ, McGowan (?), Nolin, Jenkins... who knows. I'm hopefully AA brings in 1-2 more starting pitchers who have proven themselves (preferably not proven in the NL, because that doesn't seem to mean much).

Management:
- Never liked Gibbons when they signed him back.. He's like a drunk uncle who owns a farm in Texas or something similar. Can't really put to much blame on him and I doubt AA would fire him after just one season so anyways...

I'm hopeful and confident AA will answer many of these questions, thanks for reading

Hi Wine.


Hi Moofs,

I would like to respond to your post.
First of all, I would not sell either Buerhellel or JJ. Especially JJ. If you look at the starting pitchers available in the free agent market in 2014...the best available guys: Garza + Lincecum. Those guys will likely not come for cheap either, especially if they have strong second halves; and as we have seen with Lincecum, they can be just as shit as either of those two guys you want out.
I hope we do give up prospects to make a push. Regardless of whether that push is for next year or the year after, I believe we have a 2-3 year window to have a good chance at the playoffs. We should take advantage of this opportunity instead of delving another few decades of mediocrity.

Bullpen:
Yes, it has been great. We are obviously going to regress however. It is inevitable we will see more hits given up...a lot more. I do like the core going forward though.

Position Players:
I would like to rid of JP, I personally think everyone else has performed as expected.

Starting Pitching:
You summed it up well. I am starting to become a believer in Rogers, he definitely is a serviceable pitcher long term. There has been shit thrown around about the Jays getting Garza. I hope that happens. Even though Garza becomes a free agent at the end of the year, I would like to give this team a glimmer of hope that they are playoff-capable for next year.
If we just 'unloaded' what will that be saying to the teammates who wanted to win this year? Bautista and Edwin will off-the-bat be upset and angry. That psychological stuff can backfire longterm.
Think about it.
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