Played with Caminiti, Steve Finley, Andy Petite, Roger Clemens. Went from hitting a hr every 155 at bats in the minors to every 37 at bats in the majors. Sure seems fishy

Gomez's ballot is ridiculous

will be announced tomorrow

This post was edited by KrWWW on Jan 17 2017 10:59am

Mike Cameron first ballot HOFer

Imo, let in the roiders. It's not farfetched to believe that Griffey and Bagwell did steroids. We want to believe they didn't, and there are no true links, but there weren't links to Ryan Braun or A Rod for a while too.

I'm irl friends with an ex-MLB pitcher who played from about 1995-2005 or so, right through the era. He swears he never took them and that with pitchers maybe 30% did it, but that hitters it was close to 70% and that most power hitters all did. The speed demon contact guys didn't think it was worth the risk to inject dem legs compared to power hitters.

His opinion and the opinion of his peers is to just let them all in. Whoever was the best in that era, let them in, they were playing against other roiders too, and they were the best of that class.

Raines, Pudge, Bagwell

Bagwell possibly, but Griffey?

Definitely not.

Might as well say Jeter took steroids too.

This post was edited by Babolat on Jan 18 2017 01:50pm

I agree Jeter was clean but I'm not sure about Griffey. Both hunches tho which is kind of the whole argument. We just don't know.

I'm almost more interested to see the vote %s of Clemens and Bonds etc than who actually got in.

Apparently Edgar jumped to 88%

Damn I misread it. Got my hopes up

This post was edited by Wydz on Jan 18 2017 04:41pm

Raines in

Jeff Bagwell
Pudge

Only 3 in