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Sep 10 2015 07:35pm
Harper deserves MVP, but honestly though... I feel like the MVP should at least be a player that makes it into the playoffs. I think Cespedes is at least in the top 5 voting in terms of MVP... Hes completely changed the Mets offense, and pitchers are literally walking him to avoid facing him even if it means Duda, or Granderson would be next at bat.

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Sep 10 2015 08:07pm
Harper is hands down the MVP.

Outside of him Cutch definitely deserves it over Cespedes too.
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Sep 10 2015 08:08pm
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Harper is hands down the MVP.

Outside of him Cutch definitely deserves it over Cespedes too.


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Sep 10 2015 08:53pm
Cespedes shouldn't even be on the ballot.

Been in the nl for 6 weeks now?
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Cespedes shouldn't even be on the ballot.

Been in the nl for 6 weeks now?


I mean... Just cause its a short sample means you can't make someone an MVP? You can notice the impact in Cespedes....

Regardless... Harper is the MVP. Hands down. He deserves it, and hes going to win it in my opinion.

The reason why I don't think that highly of Cespedes is because we have good hitters. We just don't have a guy that is the go to guy or someone that can score for us... Wilmer Flores, Duda, Granderson, are all good hitters, just terrible at getting on base.

We also have to take into account how good D'Arnaud and Conforto has honestly been. I'm sorry, if I'm building a team around young talent, I'm definitely putting D'Arnaud, Conforto, Flores, and Plawecki in my young hitting batters with skyrocket potential.

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In fact, d’Arnaud’s .954 OPS since the trade deadline is the highest of any Met with the exception of Cespedes during that period. The Mets are 32-16 when d’Arnaud is starting behind the dish, compared to 46-45 when he is not. His performance at the plate in the last 30 days has rivaled some of baseball’s best. Over the last 30 days, d’Arnaud’s OPS ranks 6th in the National League, Cespedes is third. If his 11 homers and 37 RBIs in 49 games in 2015 were extended to a full season for a catcher (let’s say 130 games), d’Arnaud would have 29 homers and 98 RBIs and likely in more realistic talks for NL MVP.


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Rookie Michael Conforto, as well as Johnson and Uribe, played their first career games as a Met in the Dodgers series from July 24-26, widely seen as the beginning of the new-look offense in Queens. Since then, Conforto has dominated right-handed pitching, ripping six homers and 19 RBIs while posting a .950 OPS in just 101 at-bats. Now the other side of the platoon with Conforto, Michael Cuddyer has managed a mere .714 OPS in 264 at-bats vs. righties.
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Sep 10 2015 10:49pm
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Sep 10 2015 11:07pm
obviously he's not going to win MVP, but he's been playing at an MVP caliber pace ever since we got him; we've had the best offense (most runs scored per game) in the nl since the trade.
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Sep 11 2015 01:18am
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Not even the MVP of his team rofl
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Sep 11 2015 05:59am
Quote (pAiLiXziX @ Sep 10 2015 08:35pm)
Harper deserves MVP, but honestly though... I feel like the MVP should at least be a player that makes it into the playoffs. I think Cespedes is at least in the top 5 voting in terms of MVP... Hes completely changed the Mets offense, and pitchers are literally walking him to avoid facing him even if it means Duda, or Granderson would be next at bat.


Games played is a specific factor in determining the MVP. It says right on the ballot. Cespedes will have like 60 games in the NL.

Also MVP awards are supposed to be based on regular season only. If you're worth 15 WAR, idgaf if your team doesn't make the playoffs. Nobody had a bigger impact to their team than you.
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Quote (pAiLiXziX @ Sep 10 2015 10:08pm)
I mean... Just cause its a short sample means you can't make someone an MVP? You can notice the impact in Cespedes....

Regardless... Harper is the MVP. Hands down. He deserves it, and hes going to win it in my opinion.

The reason why I don't think that highly of Cespedes is because we have good hitters. We just don't have a guy that is the go to guy or someone that can score for us... Wilmer Flores, Duda, Granderson, are all good hitters, just terrible at getting on base.

We also have to take into account how good D'Arnaud and Conforto has honestly been. I'm sorry, if I'm building a team around young talent, I'm definitely putting D'Arnaud, Conforto, Flores, and Plawecki in my young hitting batters with skyrocket potential.


Yes, you can't make him the MVP because of the short sample. It's right on the damn ballot.

If you don't use games played, any damn September call up who has a historic month can be MVP. Correa = MVP then
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